Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 31382092)
SEA-ANC isn't like SEA-BOI, there are regular flights to ANC available at all hours, if you miss your flight you will be rolled to the next one. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by lpuntase
(Post 31382167)
ok, I just checked and surprised to see flights SEA -ANC 1 and 2 hours later. Neither are full. I don't know why they put me on such a tight connection but now I feel much better.
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by lpuntase
(Post 31382167)
ok, I just checked and surprised to see flights SEA -ANC 1 and 2 hours later. Neither are full. I don't know why they put me on such a tight connection but now I feel much better.
Thanks! Given the schedule change, AS will likely rebook you onto the later flight. I would do that sooner rather than later. Just because there may be availability today doesn't mean it will be there tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by rustykettel
(Post 31375090)
GAs are scored and pressured by AS' metrics which aren't necessarily using the same numbers.
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It all depends on where one sits. Delaying flights is a poor idea. It leads to lengthier delays, particularly at larger airports, and that leads to crew time outs and other passengers missing meetings.
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Originally Posted by WebTraveler
(Post 31377935)
Your seat was probably filled by another displaced passenger from a mess earlier, and even if they opened the door, the seat was gone. That's my guess.
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Originally Posted by eddiehuang97
(Post 31374852)
Sorry for the terrible experience. SeaTac traffic is horrendous this summer. Every time I have a close call I call the Gold line to make sure they are aware the situation and give them an estimated time. Not sure if it helped or not but I had a few times that I was the last passenger to board and the door was shut right after. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31382909)
It all depends on where one sits. Delaying flights is a poor idea. It leads to lengthier delays, particularly at larger airports, and that leads to crew time outs and other passengers missing meetings.
There are certainly flights where a delay for a single - or even multiple - misconnecting passenger is the wrong choice. In this case, last flight of the day, crew and plane presumably staying overnight in BOI, flight departing ahead of schedule and arriving 17 mins early... and likely no other passenger missing a meeting at midnight ... it seems this would have perhaps been a candidate for delaying the departure by a few minutes (and perhaps still get there on time). |
Originally Posted by notquiteaff
(Post 31383419)
UA, for one, disagrees with your broad statement. As mentioned earlier, they are instituting a new program to be smarter (and more customer friendly) about this. There are certainly flights where a delay for a single - or even multiple - misconnecting passenger is the wrong choice. In this case, last flight of the day, crew and plane presumably staying overnight in BOI, flight departing ahead of schedule and arriving 17 mins early... and likely no other passenger missing a meeting at midnight ... it seems this would have perhaps been a candidate for delaying the departure by a few minutes (and perhaps still get there on time). |
Originally Posted by notquiteaff
(Post 31383419)
UA, for one, disagrees with your broad statement. As mentioned earlier, they are instituting a new program to be smarter (and more customer friendly) about this. There are certainly flights where a delay for a single - or even multiple - misconnecting passenger is the wrong choice. In this case, last flight of the day, crew and plane presumably staying overnight in BOI, flight departing ahead of schedule and arriving 17 mins early... and likely no other passenger missing a meeting at midnight ... it seems this would have perhaps been a candidate for delaying the departure by a few minutes (and perhaps still get there on time). The "program" is nothing more than carriers have done for years. |
Originally Posted by williwaw
(Post 31373450)
Ugh. Sorry. Those bus gates are awful. |
Did AS not pick up the tab for your SEA hotel overnight because this was an ATC delay? I’d be pretty furious about that given the rest of your story. Seems that’s the least they could do... |
Originally Posted by lpuntase
(Post 31382059)
ok, you guys have me freaking out. In 2 weeks, I fly JFK - SEA (AS 349) with 1 hour layover then SEA - ANC (AS 57). I had a longer layover and AS changed the flight schedules a few months ago. Any way for me to know which gates I will arrive and depart from? This trip has been in the works for a year. If I miss the second leg, friends who are meeting me in ANC will be stuck without a car, hotel, etc.
Thanks. Having multiple apps tell me the same gate info gives me peace of mind.... still no guarantee though! |
In general, the smaller your plane, the more likely for delay or bus gates. The Q400s, esp. the Portland shuttle are most frequently cancelled due to low ceilings / ATC - fewer passengers impacted and with Portland, almost always another flight later. The E175s also get the short end of the stick in ATC delay to Alaska scheduling decisions. I also found that later at night the gates are typically already filled with planes staged for the morning flights so the late inbound flights go to the ramp by the cargo area and you get bussed in.
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Originally Posted by tusphotog
(Post 31382814)
Sorry. I thought I was clear, but the metrics I was referring to were the internal AS/QX metrics, not the DOT ones. It's the same reason why they routinely refuse to list/clear standbys under 15 minutes before departure, including company pilots. Heck, some new GAs won't deal with standbys under 20 minutes because "there's not enough time to clear you and close the flight!"
This is an example from AA. I was running late and got to the gate 8 minutes before departure (fully expecting to wait until the next flight). The flight was fully boarded and closed, but the GA upgraded me to F, grabbed an extra F meal, and re-opened/re-closed the flight. We still left 4 minutes early. But that was about 10 years back...certainly wouldn't expect it today. |
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