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AA/AS Partnerhip Rumored to Be Further Gutted

AA/AS Partnerhip Rumored to Be Further Gutted

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Old Jul 19, 19, 11:19 am
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AA/AS Partnerhip Rumored to Be Further Gutted

Not many details yet but JonNYC is usually reliable when dealing with AA related issues.

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Old Jul 19, 19, 11:27 am
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Will they find another domestic partner

Doesn't look good if true
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Old Jul 19, 19, 11:37 am
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There aren't many options. AA cut B6 off before turning to AS. DL is obviously not going to help and UA/WN are also highly unlikely. So if codeshares and accruals are cut off, they will just go back to their own network for flights within North America.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 11:40 am
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Not much fat left to trim... if they dropped international or the codeshare agreement they might as well just terminate the entire relationship.
If they lose the lounge partnership.... it'd make Alaska Lounge membership untenable.
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If we loose them as a mileage redemption partner it will be a real hit.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 11:50 am
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I sent a tweet to as to see if there is any more info

Still waiting. I do fly often internarional with aa. Mostly BA, bit i would not like this to further deteriorate. I hope we get more news today
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Old Jul 19, 19, 12:18 pm
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If they drop the international AA earnings that will really and truly suck.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 12:21 pm
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OTOH more pressure for AS to maintain the rest of the benefits in the program. Could be (relatively) good for those of us who do not leverage the AA relationship.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 12:43 pm
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OTOH more pressure for AS to maintain the rest of the benefits in the program. Could be (relatively) good for those of us who do not leverage the AA relationship.
Well, if the experience with DL is any indication--remember DL also forced AM/KL/AF to also cut ties. Perhaps AA will not be as vindictive as DL though.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 12:46 pm
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Well, if the experience with DL is any indication--remember DL also forced AM/KL/AF to also cut ties. Perhaps AA will not be as vindictive as DL though.
Except you have a huge hole for JL/CX/QF/BA in the northwest, which is a huge Asian market in itself. Not to mention the first two just started direct flights to SEA, I can't see them saying ya lets just cut all connections because AA is on something again.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 12:51 pm
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Given that AA is the weakest of the four major carriers in terms of its West Coast seat share (per AS investor day), and there’s basically no room to grow at SEA, SFO and to a lesser extent LAX, one would think AA would want to maintain its existing codeshares with AS.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 1:01 pm
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Well, if the experience with DL is any indication--remember DL also forced AM/KL/AF to also cut ties. Perhaps AA will not be as vindictive as DL though.
DL could offer KL/AF network coverage out of their brand new SEA hub. AA not so much- in fact they can't be arsed to keep JFK-SEA a going concern all the time, it looks like it's going seasonal or completely away.

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Except you have a huge hole for JL/CX/QF/BA in the northwest, which is a huge Asian market in itself. Not to mention the first two just started direct flights to SEA, I can't see them saying ya lets just cut all connections because AA is on something again.
And QF probably has SEA on their shortlist, and BA probably has PDX on some list.

How's AA going to help JL/CX/QF/BA network coverage out of SEA/SFO/SJC/SAN if they start leaning on everyone in OW to drop AS, realistically? Yeah, they have LAX, but that doesn't help much in those other markets.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 1:05 pm
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How's AA going to help JL/CX/QF/BA network coverage out of SEA/SFO/SJC/SAN if they start leaning on everyone in OW to drop AS, realistically? Yeah, they have LAX, but that doesn't help in those other markets.
And LAX I feel is way more O/D than any of those other cities (with SFO maybe the closest).
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Old Jul 19, 19, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by sltlyamusd View Post
Given that AA is the weakest of the four major carriers in terms of its West Coast seat share (per AS investor day), and there’s basically no room to grow at SEA, SFO and to a lesser extent LAX, one would think AA would want to maintain its existing codeshares with AS.
Being honest, AA has never really cared about the PNW for its entire history. They maintained a large hub in SJC including service to NRT and then went on to completely dismantle it. Even bread and butter routes like SFO/LAX-MIA are getting eaten up by B6 Mint and DL/B6 have reduced AA's clout on LAX/SFO-JFK. AA has pulled out of JFK-SEA all together so not sure how much they really care about the West Coast at this point.
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Old Jul 19, 19, 1:07 pm
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AA has pulled out of JFK-SEA all together so not sure how much they really care about the West Coast at this point.
This has more to do with the Max grounding, but obviously if you are giving up a route totally, it wasn't making money to their "standard". Then again AA is also giving up on JFK.
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