AA/AS Partnerhip Rumored to Be Further Gutted
Jul 19, 2019, 9:00 pm
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Jul 19, 2019, 9:08 pm
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Jul 19, 2019, 9:16 pm
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I have no insider information. But I don't believe this is a rumor at all.
Seriously, why should AA keep working with AS when AS gradually increases its market and starts threatening others?
AS is no longer its former form when it merged with VX. It is only a matter of time.
Seriously, why should AA keep working with AS when AS gradually increases its market and starts threatening others?
AS is no longer its former form when it merged with VX. It is only a matter of time.
Jul 20, 2019, 11:52 am
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Jul 20, 2019, 5:45 pm
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I don't get what AA is doing. Their JFK-Europe story is pretty weak, forcing most travel through Heathrow and connections onto BA. That connection absolutely sucks because AA drops you off at T3 at LHR and you have to dash over to T5 for most of BA's onward European connections. DL is eating them alive on that front.
Jul 20, 2019, 6:12 pm
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Well, DL just bought an equity stake in KE so I am sure DL will ensure that KE relationship gets killed as soon as the contract runs out. This is one of the problems of relying on partners and why B6 feels it better start its own international service. We know DL is not doing AS or B6 any favors these days.
Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 pm
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Codeshares for now but not FF partnerships. If there were ever an airline out to put the screws on competitors-even using completely hypocritical arguments to justify the actions—it would be DL.
Jul 21, 2019, 12:02 pm
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... and starting January, they're cutting SEA-PHL down to a single daily redeye (compared to 4x daily flights in November). AA seems to be struggling in SEA - and if this rumor is true, maybe they're okay with that.
Jul 21, 2019, 2:04 pm
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Though I’d think if AA we’re struggling badly in SEA, they’d be perfectly happy with a strong partnership with AS: effectively tell their loyalists that they have a good AAdvantage (earning and redeeming) network in the Northwest even though it’s not much of a focus of AA’s own-metal network. And similarly, take the revenue AS sends them in the eastern 2/3 of the continent. If AA wants to cut ties with AS, that strikes me as saying they want the business for themselves and are willing to give up the AS feed to the east to get it.
It’s not like AA (or US) have ever been strong in the Northwest. Even on the days of six major carriers, they were always behind most of the big six in addition to AS. The competition has always had hubs that better serve the Northwest (SLC, DEN, SFO) or actual focus cities (NW in SEA; DL in PDX IIRC). Just never been a core of either AA or US’s network.
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Jul 21, 2019, 10:01 pm
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Jul 22, 2019, 9:41 am
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Because....... right now I fly domestically (within Canada) on WS. For US and international flying I fly AS and its partners. This means that to get to secondary and tertiary airports, I end up on AA. If the AA/AS partnership - such that it is - was do dissolve, I would need another alliance to accrue on. If WS joined Skyteam, that would work for me......which is why I hope WS joins Skyteam.
Jul 22, 2019, 9:58 am
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