No courtesy compensation?
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I don't think that Delta owes me those miles, but I did solicit some input as to why I was denied them. As the fare basis was Z on my newly-issued boarding pass for Delta, I did write to request mileage credit from Delta, for a Z-class fare/segment on Delta appears to be a mileage-earning fare/segment. The fact that Alaska's ticket number still appeared on the boarding pass didn't strike me as being of vital importance. I thought that there was a shot at getting the miles, so I asked for them. These are all things that I noted in my related Delta forum post.
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Nothing was hidden from Delta. As they asked for the ticket number as part of their online mileage claim form process, they knew that I was flying on an AS-issued ticket.
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To the OP: was earning miles on DL part of your calculus on taking the earlier flight?
I've been able to move flights before (AS metal) in an oversell and think I did get home early once. However, any compensation would be negotiated before accepting the reaccomidation (unless required by law- i.e. IDB or EU261 (for other situations).
Thanks for the datapoint of AS ticketing DL flights. Glad to know it's still possible. ^ IIRC DL and AA didn't endorse on each other for a while a bit ago.
I've been able to move flights before (AS metal) in an oversell and think I did get home early once. However, any compensation would be negotiated before accepting the reaccomidation (unless required by law- i.e. IDB or EU261 (for other situations).
Thanks for the datapoint of AS ticketing DL flights. Glad to know it's still possible. ^ IIRC DL and AA didn't endorse on each other for a while a bit ago.
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Having said that, I find it hilarious that you assumed the agent must be incorrect when they told you there would be no compensation. And why would AS offer such compensation when people are obviously willing to take the offer that they presented?
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Agreed. OP is crazy to expect compensation for Delta doing them a favour (regardless if it helped Delta).
OP’s attitude is exactly what is wrong with America today.
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As I was departing a larger Canadian airport that has but a handful of non-stop flights to US airports, most of which are on regional jets (the Alaska and Delta flights in question included), it's possible that I might have been the only passenger on that Seattle-bound Alaska flight who was going to a major US airport that afternoon -- Minneapolis-St. Paul -- that Alaska could move to a non-stop flight and free up the Seattle-bound seat that it needed. Admittedly, this is crystal ball stuff, though, and I'm speculating about it.
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Also, I was helping Alaska, not Delta, but thanks for chiming in all the same.
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My guess is that there is more to the story. $1000 doesn’t sound like “normal” compensation for voluntary denied boarding (and re-accommodation on another carrier). In the post-Dao era compensation can, of course, go high, but that isn’t the starting point IMO. Also, surprising (to me) that Delta doesn’t issue Delta vouchers for future Delta travel instead of cash.
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IME Delta has been extraordinarily generous wrt compensation recently. While I've never been offered cash, $1000+ vouchers (for minimal disruptions) are fairly common.
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In my opinion and I think I speak for the majority of polenta-hating flyers on this forum (just kidding), you got a raw deal....yes, it's true that AS wasn't REQUIRED to give you any compensation, but it would have been a nice gesture since you really did help them out and they would have had to give compensation if they would have had to involuntarily denied boarding to another passenger. Lesson learned...next time ask about compensation before you agree to the schedule change.
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I don’t get why people are piling on the OP.
When an airline asks if the passenger wants to change flights, it’s usually because of an oversold situation. When a flight is oversold, the airline usually offers compensation above and beyond the alternative routing, regardless of whether the new routing arrives earlier.
Not unreasonable at all for the OP to anticipate compensation.
That said, he/ she should be clear about the transaction in advance of accepting it.
When an airline asks if the passenger wants to change flights, it’s usually because of an oversold situation. When a flight is oversold, the airline usually offers compensation above and beyond the alternative routing, regardless of whether the new routing arrives earlier.
Not unreasonable at all for the OP to anticipate compensation.
That said, he/ she should be clear about the transaction in advance of accepting it.
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I don’t get why people are piling on the OP.
When an airline asks if the passenger wants to change flights, it’s usually because of an oversold situation. When a flight is oversold, the airline usually offers compensation above and beyond the alternative routing, regardless of whether the new routing arrives earlier.
Not unreasonable at all for the OP to anticipate compensation.
That said, he/ she should be clear about the transaction in advance of accepting it.
When an airline asks if the passenger wants to change flights, it’s usually because of an oversold situation. When a flight is oversold, the airline usually offers compensation above and beyond the alternative routing, regardless of whether the new routing arrives earlier.
Not unreasonable at all for the OP to anticipate compensation.
That said, he/ she should be clear about the transaction in advance of accepting it.
As with all VDB situations, airlines "pay" the least they need to to give up a seat. You were willing to give up your seat for a more convenient flight. That was the bargain you agreed to, OP. VDBs don't work if people come back and demand more *after* the fact.
We don't know all the factors that went into AS's decision here or DL's decision on another flight months ago.
If you don't want to sound greedy, let it go. If getting compensation for VDBs is what drives your choices of airlines, then fly Delta I guess.
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And that's how I got things going, with the Alaska gate agent stating in reply that there was no compensation on offer. If some of you think that airline-provided customer service is bad in the United States, it can be down right abysmal in Canada. My assumption -- admittedly my mistake -- was that this was little more than cheap, inexpert, sub-par Canadian customer service in action (as I'm Canadian, I should be allowed to say this), but there was hope that Alaska customer service might do something to rectify it. Lesson learned.