CSquared

I was looking for threads on this, but haven't stumbled on a discussion, but I am sure they exist. I have been a loyal Alaska Airline Mileage Plan member since the mid-90s and an MVP for the last 15 years or so. If I am being honest, I'm more of a collector than user of miles. Mostly because ever year I am trying to re-qualify for MVP status. It's like an addiction to qualify, LOL. What I appreciate more than anything is free bags if I choose to check, early boarding and better seats. Up until the mid-2000s, I moved out of the Pacific Northwest, which is when I started qualifying for MVP due to the long trips visiting home. Every year, I've kept it up, by flying a combination of Alaska and partner airlines, whether it was American, Hawaiian, Delta, British Airways, Qantas, etc. I also am a Rapid Rewards member as well as I do a lot of short hauls to Southwest destinations. Over the last 5 years or so, we know Alaska has ended some or changed the partner rules and earning on a partner metal isn't always what it once was - the end of the Delta partnership and changes with American significantly has changed the attractiveness of the MP program. Between Alaska, Delta and American, I was able to get anywhere domestically or globally.

I now live in California in a city that is not dominated by Alaska. Sure, I can get to a few cities direct, but if I want to earn miles when I travel across the country, I have to connect via Alaska in Seattle or Portland or head to LAX or SFO. I don't frequent one destination city over another to make it obvious - like flying to Atlanta all the time may make sense to join Delta's program, etc.

Over the last two years I've been debating changing the way I think and stop trying to fly the limited options to keep my MVP status. Sometimes I'll still take a connecting flight or not choose the cheapest or best option to earn MVP status.

I'm curious what others have thought of doing if they left Alaska's MVP program. Do you jump into another one? Has there been one that speaks to you? Or do you feel with the changes to all these programs, being loyal no longer is important?

JacksonFlyer

I think you answered your own question; AS may not suit your travel needs and having status on an airline you use as much as others, perhaps you should focus on those programs that fit your travel needs and then burn your AS miles. If you choose another program, you might be able to status match. I have been with AS for quite some time and there have been times in my life where I have been stationed at a place where I really could not us their services, however at that point Delta and AA where part of the partner programs that REALLY helped. I live in the PNW, I like direct flights (and AS goes to the places I want to go) and I am invested in the company (so yeah, I am a bit of a shill). Sounds like Southwest might be a better fit for where you live.

sudobuntu

Knowing the closest major airport would help. The sad reality is that like everyone else, barring any need for a specific frequent route, you're likely best off choosing the airline which dominates the closest major airport.

Back in the Virgin America days, I almost exclusively flew SAN-SFO and became Silver even though VX only had a few non-SFO flights out of SAN. WN is the dominant airline here.
Once I stopped needing to go up to SFO frequently, I was worried I'd lose status and it might end up making more sense to fly WN, despite my dislike for both open seating and Terminal 1.

Thankfully that drop-off in SFO travel happened around merger time, and the AS board heard my prayers and there's currently I think 30 destinations on AS from SAN. If not for that miracle, I'd probably be flying WN. If you're not flying the airline often, you're not really using the benefits of status, so what's the point?

felicidad76

Yes u should

Legend717

I was sort of in your shoes a few years ago, and did indeed end up switching; difference is that I switched TO Alaska, rather than AWAY FROM.

I'll say this (er, these) about your predicament:
1. Yes, loyalty is worth less now than before. With the mega-mergers we've seen this decade, basically any airline can connect basically any two major points at basically the same price with basically the same mediocre service and reliability. But loyalty is not COMPLETELY worthless. It does still have some perks, and the perks in the AS program are, in my opinion and in the opinions of some other travelers, worth more than the perks offered by the bigger players.
2. That was a good segue- other programs that you might have the opportunity to join are likely to be somewhat less (or even far less) rewarding. Admittedly, it doesn't sound like you care to use your miles. But Alaska is still awarding buckets of them for actually flying on their planes. And, global partners (at least, the ones that Alaska has bothered to enable award redemptions on) are still a very strong benefit of the Alaska program.
3. You've provided a good amount of info about your travel patterns; they're basically random. We don't know what your preferred departure point is, but I'm assuming it's NOT LAX or SFO, since you said you'd have to trek there. That means you're not hub-captive. You can do whatever you want.
4. All that said, I would say that your choice should maybe be between the following two options:
a. Become a free agent. Fly whatever suits you best at that time. Maybe it's United today (oh help us all). Maybe it's Allegiant next week, and the week after, Delta. Pick what matters to you: price? convenience? aircraft type? You choose.
b. Stick with Alaska, because it's not like the grass is especially greener anywhere else. Especially if you can get to MVPG75k... that comes with a big honkin' mileage bonus.

I hope that has helped.
Let us know what you decide!

diver858

I'm curious as well: Other than Los Angeles, what California City "not dominated by Alaska" offers better nonstop, connections on another carrier. AS has done a pretty good job establishing network options out of SAN and SJC, with some very competitive fares, respectable upgrade opportunities, fewer weather-related risks than PDX and SEA. With all of the service options out SAN, I have had little difficulty earning MVPG status, enjoy benefits and upgrades requiring 2-3x BIS miles, increasing minimum spends on competing US carriers. Sure, there is lots of room for improvement, AS appears to be inching its way along the race to the bottom, but still offers one of the most viable options for those not earning top tier status on a major US carrier.

milypan

The wording on this is a little unclear, but as written I'd say: SFO, OAK, ONT, PSP, SBA, FAT, MRY, SBP, BFL, and probably SJC. SNA, LGB, and BUR too, but I'll lump those in with "Los Angeles".

Also, California cities dominated by Alaska would just be the null set, no? SAN and STS would be the closest to belonging there, but I wouldn't call the AS presence "dominating" at either airport.

diver858

I would beg to differ: SFO, OAK and MRY are all reasonable alternatives to SJC. AS also offers nonstop service between MRY and SAN for cities not served out of SJC.
ONT, PSP, SBA, SNA, LGB, and BUR are all reasonable alternatives to LAX, generally better served by big 3.
AS has lots of options out of FAT - north and south.

sudobuntu

As usual, we need to know the airport and the travel profile. AS can be a very good alternative for a lot of CA airports, if we know where you're coming from and going to.

If we take the OP literally, the only cities that fit connecting through only SEA and PDX are ONT, OAK, and SBA.
I would argue that OAK hardly counts given SFO and SJC are easily reachable by transit, though I realize potentially up to an hour. For ONT it would be annoying to have to go to LAX given traffic, but it's definitely an option and AS practically has its own terminal there. The only one that's a toughy is SBA, but it's pretty evenly split there with no carrier having more than 3 destinations, and they're all just hub connectors anyway.

VegasGambler

You can get the bags and the boarding by signing up for a credit card. You can get this on every major carrier (one card per airline) and it's a lot cheaper than maintaining status.

So really, we are left with the better seats. I am someone who will pay for E+ seats if they are not free, so I find this to be an extremely valuable benefit. All the carriers are basically the same here... with the lowest status level you can select an E+ seat some time before your flight (1-2 days, depending on the airline).

For shuttling around the west coast, I find that AS is the best airline. UA is probably 2nd best. The fact that AS is not yet a revenue-based program and has a 500-mile minimum means that there is significant value in these short flights, especially if you buy cheap tickets. I've recently done a lot of $60-$70 flights between SFO and various LA-are airports. Getting 500 eqm and 1000 rdm (750 as MVP) on a $60 ticket is nice. On UA this ticket might have a base fare of $40 or so, giving you 40PQD and 320RDM (as gold) or 280RDM (as silver). Getting 3x the miles is certainly nice, not to mention that you would have to take an awful lot of those to rack up the 3k pqd required to maintain bottom-level status...

On the other hand, UA has a great network (including international) and a good premium product on some long routes (which is why I've moved a lot of my business there). But for shuttling around the west coast, AS is tough to beat.

milypan

sudobuntu

I have been absolutely delighted by the 30 non-seasonal destinations AS has from SAN. I wouldn't be so quick to say anything to the effect of "only SEA has good destinations".

milypan

StephanP37

sudobuntu

I extrapolated "unless you live in SEA, the network is not one of them" to imply that the connection options from non-SEA airports are not good. But true, you did not explicitly say that.
I'm not at all saying AS is superior than the other airlines at LAX/SFO/SAN, etc, I'm just saying it's viable competitor. When available North America routes are within +/-5 of AS, I think that's good competition.