Award one-way stopover airport restriction?
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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Award one-way stopover airport restriction?
Hi, I am trying to figure out the stopover rule for one-way award travel. In this case, I am talking about all Alaska Airlines operated.
I will take one-way from Barrow (BRW) to Los Angeles (LAX). This is the confirmed travel. But thinking to take advantage of Alaska one-way stopover, so randomly add some additional routes after BRW-LAX without using addition miles (I live in Los Angeles area, to be exact, Orange County. SNA is actually closer and more ideal). Here are my questions.
1) I searched BRW-LAX-PDX and got the error message (Error Code-1580). However, If I searched BRW-LAX-HNL or BRW-LAX-JFK, it does provide some flights to select. So what is the logic behind?
2) If my stopover is SNA instead of LAX, it turns no results at all, even BRW-SNA-HNL. Does it mean the stopover has to be like the Alaska hub or any other reason?
3) If I have BRW-LAX-HNL and already take BRW-LAX, do I still get the chance to change LAX-HNL flight afterward? Like change different date or even change the destination city?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions
I will take one-way from Barrow (BRW) to Los Angeles (LAX). This is the confirmed travel. But thinking to take advantage of Alaska one-way stopover, so randomly add some additional routes after BRW-LAX without using addition miles (I live in Los Angeles area, to be exact, Orange County. SNA is actually closer and more ideal). Here are my questions.
1) I searched BRW-LAX-PDX and got the error message (Error Code-1580). However, If I searched BRW-LAX-HNL or BRW-LAX-JFK, it does provide some flights to select. So what is the logic behind?
2) If my stopover is SNA instead of LAX, it turns no results at all, even BRW-SNA-HNL. Does it mean the stopover has to be like the Alaska hub or any other reason?
3) If I have BRW-LAX-HNL and already take BRW-LAX, do I still get the chance to change LAX-HNL flight afterward? Like change different date or even change the destination city?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions
#3
Join Date: Apr 2014
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1)
BRW-LAX is southbound.
LAX-PDX is northbound.
You're backtracking, and you can't do that. That's an open-jaw roundtrip. HNL and JFK work because they're east/west and LAX is a logical stopover point for those routes.
2) BRW-SNA-HNL doesn't work because there is no direct SNA-HNL flight. They all go through SFO/SJC/SEA which is... backtracking.
3) You can certainly SDC after award travel has started, and I believe you can even fully change the remainder of the ticket, subject of course to the $125 change fee. I'm unclear on if elite benefits will help here, outside of SDC.
BRW-LAX is southbound.
LAX-PDX is northbound.
You're backtracking, and you can't do that. That's an open-jaw roundtrip. HNL and JFK work because they're east/west and LAX is a logical stopover point for those routes.
2) BRW-SNA-HNL doesn't work because there is no direct SNA-HNL flight. They all go through SFO/SJC/SEA which is... backtracking.
3) You can certainly SDC after award travel has started, and I believe you can even fully change the remainder of the ticket, subject of course to the $125 change fee. I'm unclear on if elite benefits will help here, outside of SDC.
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1)
BRW-LAX is southbound.
LAX-PDX is northbound.
You're backtracking, and you can't do that. That's an open-jaw roundtrip. HNL and JFK work because they're east/west and LAX is a logical stopover point for those routes.
2) BRW-SNA-HNL doesn't work because there is no direct SNA-HNL flight. They all go through SFO/SJC/SEA which is... backtracking.
3) You can certainly SDC after award travel has started, and I believe you can even fully change the remainder of the ticket, subject of course to the $125 change fee. I'm unclear on if elite benefits will help here, outside of SDC.
BRW-LAX is southbound.
LAX-PDX is northbound.
You're backtracking, and you can't do that. That's an open-jaw roundtrip. HNL and JFK work because they're east/west and LAX is a logical stopover point for those routes.
2) BRW-SNA-HNL doesn't work because there is no direct SNA-HNL flight. They all go through SFO/SJC/SEA which is... backtracking.
3) You can certainly SDC after award travel has started, and I believe you can even fully change the remainder of the ticket, subject of course to the $125 change fee. I'm unclear on if elite benefits will help here, outside of SDC.
It isn't a matter of East/West, North/South, it is a matter of what AS allows as a valid routing between point A and point B.
You can most certainly can fly SFO-SEA and have a stopover in SEA (1 day, 2 days, 1 month, 6 months) before flying SEA-LAX for a grand total of 5K points. Ultimately, you are flying North to go South but this is a valid routing on AS for SFO-LAX. It can be purchased as revenue or on an award. Notice the 5K? You are paying for a hop award from SFO-LAX.
Use the regular one-way search between A and B to see how AS will route it. Check weekdays and weekends because every route may not be available everyday. You should be able to do a stopover at anyone of the connection cities along the route using the multi-city search.
James
#6
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It isn't a matter of East/West, North/South, it is a matter of what AS allows as a valid routing between point A and point B.
You can most certainly can fly SFO-SEA and have a stopover in SEA (1 day, 2 days, 1 month, 6 months) before flying SEA-LAX for a grand total of 5K points. Ultimately, you are flying North to go South but this is a valid routing on AS for SFO-LAX. It can be purchased as revenue or on an award. Notice the 5K? You are paying for a hop award from SFO-LAX.
Use the regular one-way search between A and B to see how AS will route it. Check weekdays and weekends because every route may not be available everyday. You should be able to do a stopover at anyone of the connection cities along the route using the multi-city search.
James
You can most certainly can fly SFO-SEA and have a stopover in SEA (1 day, 2 days, 1 month, 6 months) before flying SEA-LAX for a grand total of 5K points. Ultimately, you are flying North to go South but this is a valid routing on AS for SFO-LAX. It can be purchased as revenue or on an award. Notice the 5K? You are paying for a hop award from SFO-LAX.
Use the regular one-way search between A and B to see how AS will route it. Check weekdays and weekends because every route may not be available everyday. You should be able to do a stopover at anyone of the connection cities along the route using the multi-city search.
James
I'm shocked that SFO-SEA-LAX is bookable as a valid routing for SFO-LAX. That seems abusable even as a revenue ticket (unless all fares that allow it are expensive)
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Just because the AS site allows something to be booked online does not make it a legal routing nor is the price at the correct amount. I think there is some phrase about gift horses? Just be happy when what you can get.
#8
Join Date: Apr 2014
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It's weird, too, because the flights in cash are showing additive pricing of the two segments. It's certainly amusing to choose the 5k miles and get this alert in the cart:
Total price for 1 passenger
5,000 miles + $11.20
Also available for:
$191.59
10,000 miles + $110.10
5,000 miles + $11.20
Also available for:
$191.59
10,000 miles + $110.10
Now I'm just disappointed that LAX-SEA(stop)-SAN is pricing at 12.5k, since that would have been an amazing opportunity at "Hop" pricing. Oh well.
#9
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Francisco
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You can most certainly can fly SFO-SEA and have a stopover in SEA (1 day, 2 days, 1 month, 6 months) before flying SEA-LAX for a grand total of 5K points. Ultimately, you are flying North to go South but this is a valid routing on AS for SFO-LAX. It can be purchased as revenue or on an award. Notice the 5K? You are paying for a hop award from SFO-LAX.