AS 653 (JFK-SFO) Canceled on 5/29/2019
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Well, I had the misfortune of taking 653 today, and had one of the most atrocious crews in ages, on any airline. As I've often said "if you need something and the crew is inattentive, ring the callbell." This crew didn't even respond to that. At least we arrived early. I'm now home guzzling water because even getting water was a chore at times. I flew smart on Saturday (on B6) and landed happy today (on AS) because the stupid flight was finally over.
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Just to close this out, I sent in my receipts 2 days ago. Today I got an email reply saying that they will send a check for both lyft rides (minus gratuities) as well as the full ($350-ish) hotel stay.
This is basically exactly what I was asking for, so I'm happy. There was no argument or negotiation -- I asked for this and they gave it to me.
I'm not sure if my status (MVPG) had anything to do with the fact that they are ignoring / waiving the $200 hotel max (as well as the fact that the hotel price is quite reasonable -- cheap, even -- for the area)
This is basically exactly what I was asking for, so I'm happy. There was no argument or negotiation -- I asked for this and they gave it to me.
I'm not sure if my status (MVPG) had anything to do with the fact that they are ignoring / waiving the $200 hotel max (as well as the fact that the hotel price is quite reasonable -- cheap, even -- for the area)
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Another reason I'm not flying BOS/JFK/EWR westbound transcons on AS anymore, the 737 and A320 pit stops. Really don't want to see Salt Lake City that badly.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
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Another reason I'm not flying BOS/JFK/EWR westbound transcons on AS anymore, the 737 and A320 pit stops. Really don't want to see Salt Lake City that badly.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
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Another reason I'm not flying BOS/JFK/EWR westbound transcons on AS anymore, the 737 and A320 pit stops. Really don't want to see Salt Lake City that badly.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
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Another reason I'm not flying BOS/JFK/EWR westbound transcons on AS anymore, the 737 and A320 pit stops. Really don't want to see Salt Lake City that badly.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
Appreciate that they've cut the pricing on F given the product, but only solved the problem in one direction.
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Alaska switched most of their BOS and JFK transcons to 737-900ERs and A321NEOs. Reasons include the increased capacity of these aircraft (178 to 190 seats), lower cost per seat mile and the increased range. Some lower density transcon routes are operated with 738s. The pitstop issue was primarily on the non-sharklet A320, and was something that also plagued B6 back when they started flying. I have never seen a pitstop on a 739ER. SFO-BOS still gets A320s but overall more A320s are flying short west coast routes.
The 737 is all about reducing operating costs and increasing range at the expense of customer comfort. This is not an AS-specific thing; the 737 is an uncomfortable ride regardless of which logo is painted on the outside of the plane.
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Not really sure if the relevance but I'll take any 320 or 321 over any 737 on a flight of any significant length, regardless of carrier, especially if stuck in economy. The seats are significantly wider. Diversions are rare; you are much more likely to face some other issue than a diversion regardless of aircraft or route. It's not worth optimizing for.
The 737 is all about reducing operating costs and increasing range at the expense of customer comfort. This is not an AS-specific thing; the 737 is an uncomfortable ride regardless of which logo is painted on the outside of the plane.
The 737 is all about reducing operating costs and increasing range at the expense of customer comfort. This is not an AS-specific thing; the 737 is an uncomfortable ride regardless of which logo is painted on the outside of the plane.
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Alright, I'm taking the tape measure with me in July on my trips that are a combo of 737s and A320s. I would wager a bet that the real potential width of 17A/F on 737s (and A320s for that matter) is something north of 18" as the arm rest is on the exit door. After some data collection, I'll start a new thread so we can put this to rest.