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Old Apr 8, 19, 12:15 pm
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I'd probably choose BA, solely because you'll get a more direct flight from the WC, versus having to connect in ORD/JFK/LAX/DFW. Plus in the small chance that your plane is swapped last minute, you will end up in economy, whereas BA has more or less standardized PE across their Long Haul fleet. And as a 75k you will get lounge access in LHR for flying on BA.

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Old Apr 8, 19, 12:18 pm
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Yikes!
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Old Apr 8, 19, 12:29 pm
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Good points all; thanks! Thinking it through a little more, realized that I wouldn’t get points for the first leg on American, where I connect through DFW or wherever. So, BA might be the better choice after all
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Old Apr 8, 19, 12:50 pm
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Well, I may have been too optimistic about my travel options. We book our travel through Concur and with whatever settings my company has, neither Condor nor Icelandair show up as an option. It looks like I can go with either AA or BA. From the earnings chart for Alaska, it looks like they’re fairly evenly matched for points accrual in premium economy. Anyone have any experience/preferences between the two? I’m most interested about the hard product. Sleep is far more important to me than whatever food or drinks they might serve on the plane
We used to use concur too. It's a giant pile of crap.

Concur allows the ability to block certain airlines. This seems to be turned in by default for some carriers (probably they block the ones that pay lower commission). In other words, your company didn't necessarily request that those carriers be blocked -- Concur probably just did it. They can be unblocked. Your company just has to ask Concur to do it.

Also you can call a travel agent at Concur -- they are quite good in my experience! They may be able to see and book the ones that you can't see. They are a full travel agent and at the very least should be able to see all published fares. So you can price out your trip in matrix, and if it meets your company's travel restrictions, call them with the information at the bottom. At the very least, they should be able to get you that same fare. They may even have something cheaper.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 1:23 pm
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If you can get on an A380 the BA premium class is about equivalant to a AS FC seat. Not a true lie flat, but not a bad way to fly while still following company rules. Being in PDX its a shorrt hope to Vancouver to catch it from there. They have a straight flight into heathrow and its easy to connect on from there.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 1:38 pm
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Any opinions/recommendations as to the best option among the Alaska partner airlines for a premium economy class seat to Europe? My company won’t pay for business class. Alternatively, anyone have any insights as to ease and reasonable cost of an upgrade to business/first? I’ve successfully bidded for an upgrade on Iceland air before - not sure if there’s options like that on some of the other partners.
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Between PDX and Amsterdam and PDX and Milan
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Well, I may have been too optimistic about my travel options. We book our travel through Concur and with whatever settings my company has, neither Condor nor Icelandair show up as an option. It looks like I can go with either AA or BA. From the earnings chart for Alaska, it looks like they’re fairly evenly matched for points accrual in premium economy. Anyone have any experience/preferences between the two? I’m most interested about the hard product. Sleep is far more important to me than whatever food or drinks they might serve on the plane
As a business trip is price & company travel policy a factor?
AA to Europe routes here ---> Where exactly does AA fly to Europe? Which routes have good business seats?
BA will have many options from USA gateways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portla...tional_Airport

If it was easy and reasonable cost for an upgrade to business/first we would all be doing that. Many frequent flyers are looking for upgrades trans Atlantic. Some will have instrument (SWU's, etc ) and many ff miles to burn.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by rune87 View Post
If you can get on an A380 the BA premium class is about equivalant to a AS FC seat. Not a true lie flat, but not a bad way to fly while still following company rules. Being in PDX its a shorrt hope to Vancouver to catch it from there. They have a straight flight into heathrow and its easy to connect on from there.

FYI this flight arrives into LHR T3 and only goes to a A380 during the summer months I believe it starts May 5th and switches back to a 747 October 1st.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:02 pm
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With BA, it's a relatively cheap Avios upgrade from PE to biz.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
We used to use concur too. It's a giant pile of crap.

Concur allows the ability to block certain airlines. This seems to be turned in by default for some carriers (probably they block the ones that pay lower commission). In other words, your company didn't necessarily request that those carriers be blocked -- Concur probably just did it. They can be unblocked. Your company just has to ask Concur to do it.

Also you can call a travel agent at Concur -- they are quite good in my experience! They may be able to see and book the ones that you can't see. They are a full travel agent and at the very least should be able to see all published fares. So you can price out your trip in matrix, and if it meets your company's travel restrictions, call them with the information at the bottom. At the very least, they should be able to get you that same fare. They may even have something cheaper.
FYI, Concur is just a software that can be configured however your company travel agent wants. However, it is not a travel agent and does not have the ability to book tickets. Various corporate travel agencies use the concur platform to allow employees to book tickets - for example, my company uses CWT. Your complaint is with your company travel agent, not Concur.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL View Post
FYI, Concur is just a software that can be configured however your company travel agent wants. However, it is not a travel agent and does not have the ability to book tickets. Various corporate travel agencies use the concur platform to allow employees to book tickets - for example, my company uses CWT. Your complaint is with your company travel agent, not Concur.
Oh, interesting, I thought that the TAs came with the software.

The software is still a giant pile of crap, though.

More importantly, unless your company policy restricts travel on those airlines, you should ask someone to get them un-blocked from your search.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:39 pm
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I used to work for Concur like 15 years ago it was my first gig in software testing. This was well before the acquisition by SAP so so I don't know the quality of the application now but I was always pretty proud back then that most user "issues" submitted for bug investigation were actually the software properly following the clients' travel policies and the user submitting the issue it was just some frustrated person trying to get around the policy and book something specific.

Of course this was before I started chasing miles & status... and now I look at corporate travel & expense systems as the devil
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by safari ari View Post
whereas BA has more or less standardized PE across their Long Haul fleet.
Is that the case for all of their 744 configs now? BA's PE on the 777 and 787 is nice enough, but the two times I was on it on their 744s in previous years it was pretty dated.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by nearlysober View Post
I used to work for Concur like 15 years ago it was my first gig in software testing. This was well before the acquisition by SAP so so I don't know the quality of the application now but I was always pretty proud back then that most user "issues" submitted for bug investigation were actually the software properly following the clients' travel policies and the user submitting the issue it was just some frustrated person trying to get around the policy and book something specific.

Of course this was before I started chasing miles & status... and now I look at corporate travel & expense systems as the devil
Honestly, I'm not sure what was the fault of the TA and what is the fault of the software.

One time I booked a hotel reservation, flew across the Atlantic, and found that my hotel reservation had been automatically canceled by (I assume) the software because I did not act on an email asking me to confirm (I was over the Atlantic at the time). I found myself in Helsinki with no reservation and most of the hotels full. When I got back I told my employer that regardless of policy, I would not be booking through concur any more. I could either make my own reservations and they could reimburse me or they could find someone else to go.
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Old Apr 8, 19, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by nookanaya View Post
Is that the case for all of their 744 configs now? BA's PE on the 777 and 787 is nice enough, but the two times I was on it on their 744s in previous years it was pretty dated.
Best to use the thread as I have not traveled in BA PE.

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Old Apr 9, 19, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by sfozrhfco View Post
Also Thomas Cook has engaged banks to sell off Condor so if the flight is far in the future, there is no guarantee they will be an AS partner--especially if LH takes them back.
That would be sad, with loss of AF and KL it's already pretty crappy service to Europe. Condor has been working ok, I've booked business on them 5 times now, really enjoy the bucket load of miles I get, though not sure what to do with those miles, because AS partners never have much available for "vacation" routes in business or first. BA often has availability, but I don't consider 80K miles AND $1,000 much of an award.
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