Allegiant (G4) New Route BLI-ANC
Jan 15, 2019, 12:06 pm
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I was really hoping for a PAE to Anchorage, but that hasn’t happened :-((
I don’t have any stats for Bellingham, but perhaps they want to provide competition for the seasonal Air Canada flight?
I don’t have any stats for Bellingham, but perhaps they want to provide competition for the seasonal Air Canada flight?
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Jan 15, 2019, 12:50 pm
#4
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Just my opinion, but I think PAE-ANC would almost be a no-brainer if/when mainline comes to PAE.
BLI-ANC will probably draw from Snohomish County all the way up to Vancouver/Abbotsford. I wish them well and hope it succeeds. I don’t think it will impact YVR-ANC on AC too much.
BLI-ANC will probably draw from Snohomish County all the way up to Vancouver/Abbotsford. I wish them well and hope it succeeds. I don’t think it will impact YVR-ANC on AC too much.
Jan 16, 2019, 12:14 pm
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I welcome the competition. B4 draws a different crowd like leisure travelers so it won't have much impact on business travelers flying SEA to ANC. But I hope this competition will help drive down AS' summer fare SEA to ANC, negating the effects on standard fares from the X fares. Any competition in SEA will ground AS to reality and take out their arrogance (along with high ticket price) that thinking they own the PNW.
Jan 16, 2019, 12:26 pm
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Jan 16, 2019, 12:27 pm
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BLI-ANC is a route that gets a big boost by avoiding the U.S. & Canadian inspection charges on a CAN/USA/CAN itinerary, much like Buffalo-MIA vs. Toronto-MIA. From ITA Matrix for AC YVR-ANC-YVR:
Canadian Goods and Services Tax (XG)CA$26.61
United States Immigration User Fee (XY)CA$9.30
United States Customs User Fee (YC)CA$7.70
United States APHIS Passenger Fee Passengers (XA)CA$5.30
Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)CA$20.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)CA$49.40
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)CA$12.10
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)CA$7.40
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)CA$4.00
Canadian Goods and Services Tax (XG)CA$26.61
United States Immigration User Fee (XY)CA$9.30
United States Customs User Fee (YC)CA$7.70
United States APHIS Passenger Fee Passengers (XA)CA$5.30
Vancouver Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)CA$20.00
US International Arrival Tax (US)CA$49.40
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)CA$12.10
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)CA$7.40
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)CA$4.00
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Jan 16, 2019, 1:08 pm
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Good for G4!
Perhaps AS will have a PAE-ANC flight start up?
Although the shuttle service SEA-ANC is nice to have.
Perhaps AS will have a PAE-ANC flight start up?
Although the shuttle service SEA-ANC is nice to have.
Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 pm
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I hope AS tries growing the ANC -> smaller-WA-market routes again. I enjoyed the (short lived) ANC-GEG and feel that PAE and BLI would be good candidates as well.
Also, B4 isn't the code for Allegiant. It's G4
Also, B4 isn't the code for Allegiant. It's G4
Jan 16, 2019, 4:45 pm
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Just my opinion, but I think PAE-ANC would almost be a no-brainer if/when mainline comes to PAE.
BLI-ANC will probably draw from Snohomish County all the way up to Vancouver/Abbotsford. I wish them well and hope it succeeds. I don’t think it will impact YVR-ANC on AC too much.
BLI-ANC will probably draw from Snohomish County all the way up to Vancouver/Abbotsford. I wish them well and hope it succeeds. I don’t think it will impact YVR-ANC on AC too much.
G4 announces BLI-Hawaii
AS announces BLI-Hawaii
AS introduces BLI-Hawaii
G4 gets their 757s to Hawaii
I can't see Alaska standing idly by, they've never really likes having Allegiant in their turf. I don't see any reason they need to wait for mainline, a QX/OO E170 will happily fly BLI-ANC or PAE-ANC
Jan 16, 2019, 5:54 pm
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Interesting. Always glad to see more service at BLI and hope it continues from AS as well.
Though they still are resisting my personal plea for a PDX-JNU flight...
Though they still are resisting my personal plea for a PDX-JNU flight...
Jan 16, 2019, 6:25 pm
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I welcome the competition. B4 draws a different crowd like leisure travelers so it won't have much impact on business travelers flying SEA to ANC. But I hope this competition will help drive down AS' summer fare SEA to ANC, negating the effects on standard fares from the X fares. Any competition in SEA will ground AS to reality and take out their arrogance (along with high ticket price) that thinking they own the PNW.
Delta increases their fflights.
JetBlew shows up.
American shows up.
Sun Country picks a random new city every year to fly to ANC from.
Air Canada.
Frontier used to come in.
Virgin American tried it once.
And prices get pretty good during those months. I've seen $79 pretty frequently ANC-SEA, and roughly the same for ANC-PDX.
Jan 16, 2019, 6:38 pm
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(Too bad AS is so Boeing-hidebound, those A220s DL has look sweet and just the right size for certain markets.)
Also, hard for me to believe AS can sustain BLI-ANC when they can't even sustain BLI-PDX or BLI-LAS.
Jan 16, 2019, 7:34 pm
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Jan 16, 2019, 7:36 pm
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I'm basically waiting for the PAE-ANC announcement from AS after G4 announced this. Afterall the timeline on Hawaii went
G4 announces BLI-Hawaii
AS announces BLI-Hawaii
AS introduces BLI-Hawaii
G4 gets their 757s to Hawaii
I can't see Alaska standing idly by, they've never really likes having Allegiant in their turf. I don't see any reason they need to wait for mainline, a QX/OO E170 will happily fly BLI-ANC or PAE-ANC
G4 announces BLI-Hawaii
AS announces BLI-Hawaii
AS introduces BLI-Hawaii
G4 gets their 757s to Hawaii
I can't see Alaska standing idly by, they've never really likes having Allegiant in their turf. I don't see any reason they need to wait for mainline, a QX/OO E170 will happily fly BLI-ANC or PAE-ANC
I'm actually agree with you. We shall see what happen. This is first-ever served to Alaska.