Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability (2019-2022)
Jul 27, 2019, 1:05 am
#721
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Got it.
I think CX no longer sells F to anywhere in Asia other than PEK and HND. If they happen to operate a four cabin 777 to these places they would sell the F seats as J. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Still, 70000 miles for F in North America - HKG and J in HKG - DXB with a total flight time well over 20 hr is a no brainer, not to mention that continuing to CPT/JNB from HK brings the total to 30hr.
I think CX no longer sells F to anywhere in Asia other than PEK and HND. If they happen to operate a four cabin 777 to these places they would sell the F seats as J. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Still, 70000 miles for F in North America - HKG and J in HKG - DXB with a total flight time well over 20 hr is a no brainer, not to mention that continuing to CPT/JNB from HK brings the total to 30hr.
The flight departed with 3 empty F seats. Of all the AS partner, multiple F flights I have flown on CX, QF, EK & JL I have yet to be in a full F cabin. James
Jul 27, 2019, 3:30 am
#722
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SIN
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Correct on the first part. I flew JNB-HKG-BOS last year. Originally booked J+J for 62.5K. 1 F opened up at T-11 days on HKG-BOS. I upgraded the TPAC for 7.5K and $3.85 in additional taxes. That is a no brainer! The flight departed with 3 empty F seats. Of all the AS partner, multiple F flights I have flown on CX, QF, EK & JL I have yet to be in a full F cabin.
James
The flight departed with 3 empty F seats. Of all the AS partner, multiple F flights I have flown on CX, QF, EK & JL I have yet to be in a full F cabin.James
Jul 27, 2019, 10:51 am
#723
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James
Jul 27, 2019, 11:21 am
#724
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Correct on the first part. I flew JNB-HKG-BOS last year. Originally booked J+J for 62.5K. 1 F opened up at T-11 days on HKG-BOS. I upgraded the TPAC for 7.5K and $3.85 in additional taxes. That is a no brainer! The flight departed with 3 empty F seats. Of all the AS partner, multiple F flights I have flown on CX, QF, EK & JL I have yet to be in a full F cabin.
James
The flight departed with 3 empty F seats. Of all the AS partner, multiple F flights I have flown on CX, QF, EK & JL I have yet to be in a full F cabin.James
Jul 27, 2019, 12:19 pm
#725
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Unless you paid the extra miles already (say you were on SEA-HKG-BKK, SEA-HKG was in J, no HKG-BKK availability at booking, so you are in Y that segment, but paid for the full 50k J award, J comes open and you call in), yes, because you're actually doing a completely new award in that case, not upgrading.
Jul 27, 2019, 12:21 pm
#726
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Unless you paid the extra miles already (say you were on SEA-HKG-BKK, SEA-HKG was in J, no HKG-BKK availability at booking, so you are in Y that segment, but paid for the full 50k J award, J comes open and you call in), yes, because you're actually doing a completely new award in that case, not upgrading.
Jul 27, 2019, 12:30 pm
#727
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As @eponymous_coward illustrated, there is no change fee to change a segment of your itinerary into a cabin you have already paid for. In my case, a change fee would have been due. However, my Elite status grants a change fee waiver so the change fee at T-11 days was waived and I only needed to pay the addition taxes and miles.
James
James
Jul 31, 2019, 8:44 am
#728
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Question on how the change fees work and whether there's a different between change fee and redeposit fee.
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Jul 31, 2019, 8:53 am
#729
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Question on how the change fees work and whether there's a different between change fee and redeposit fee.
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Jul 31, 2019, 8:57 am
#730
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Question on how the change fees work and whether there's a different between change fee and redeposit fee.
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Jul 31, 2019, 3:26 pm
#731
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Question on how the change fees work and whether there's a different between change fee and redeposit fee.
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
The advantage of cancelling is that you get a new award that is good for 1 year from the date you booked the new award as opposed to 1 year from when you booked the old award. This may make no difference to you.
The advantage of changing the old award is you get to keep any existing segments you want. If you do not care about keeping them then it does not matter.
Jul 31, 2019, 5:45 pm
#732
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 539
Question on how the change fees work and whether there's a different between change fee and redeposit fee.
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
Right now I have HKG-LAX, 4 passengers on one PNR, using my miles, in CX Premium Economy.
I'd like to change this to BKK-MCI. There is availability on CX+AS metal both keeping my existing HKG-LAX as-is or by following an entirely new route that doesn't involve those seats.
Is there any advantage from a fee perspective in canceling my itin, paying a redeposit fee, vs changing the existing itin? I get the sense that the change fee would be $125 x 4. Would redeposit be the same, or just $125 once?
The fee is the same.
The advantage of cancelling is that you get a new award that is good for 1 year from the date you booked the new award as opposed to 1 year from when you booked the old award. This may make no difference to you.
The advantage of changing the old award is you get to keep any existing segments you want. If you do not care about keeping them then it does not matter.
The advantage of cancelling is that you get a new award that is good for 1 year from the date you booked the new award as opposed to 1 year from when you booked the old award. This may make no difference to you.
The advantage of changing the old award is you get to keep any existing segments you want. If you do not care about keeping them then it does not matter.
Jul 31, 2019, 5:49 pm
#733
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Posts: 136
The fee is the same.
The advantage of cancelling is that you get a new award that is good for 1 year from the date you booked the new award as opposed to 1 year from when you booked the old award. This may make no difference to you.
The advantage of changing the old award is you get to keep any existing segments you want. If you do not care about keeping them then it does not matter.
The advantage of cancelling is that you get a new award that is good for 1 year from the date you booked the new award as opposed to 1 year from when you booked the old award. This may make no difference to you.
The advantage of changing the old award is you get to keep any existing segments you want. If you do not care about keeping them then it does not matter.
Jul 31, 2019, 6:16 pm
#734
Join Date: Mar 2017
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I guess I would add that OP paid the partner booking fee of $15 p/ticket at the time of booking. If OP is doing a change then he would only pay the change fee, but if he cancels and redeposits OP would have to pay the partner booking fee of $15 p/ticket again for the new booking. I think OP is better off changing the existing booking rather than redepositing and booking again.
Jul 31, 2019, 6:52 pm
#735
Join Date: Jan 2010
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I guess I would add that OP paid the partner booking fee of $15 p/ticket at the time of booking. If OP is doing a change then he would only pay the change fee, but if he cancels and redeposits OP would have to pay the partner booking fee of $15 p/ticket again for the new booking. I think OP is better off changing the existing booking rather than redepositing and booking again.
Right, not the same award but you cancel the old award, miles go back, you book a new award that is now good for a year which gives you extra time to use it if you have to change later.