Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability (2019-2022)
#1726
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#1727
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
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Other than our YVR-JFK flight in early 2020, I have never seen 2F available on CX and have never flown in a full F cabin. I would book 2J as it is extremely unlikely CX will be flying 4 Cabin aircraft in the next year. If the placeholder is indicating F, you can book it but expect to be downgraded to J when the aircraft is downguaged. CX is currently down to sixty-five flights per week dropping YVR & SFO among others as Flight crew are no longer exempt from quarentine when returning to HKG.
The crew of other airlines serving HKG are subject to quarentine as well unless they depart within two hours. Those airlines are bringing a second crew with them who rest and then the crews swap for the return flight.
James
The crew of other airlines serving HKG are subject to quarentine as well unless they depart within two hours. Those airlines are bringing a second crew with them who rest and then the crews swap for the return flight.
James
#1729
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Other than our YVR-JFK flight in early 2020, I have never seen 2F available on CX and have never flown in a full F cabin. I would book 2J as it is extremely unlikely CX will be flying 4 Cabin aircraft in the next year. If the placeholder is indicating F, you can book it but expect to be downgraded to J when the aircraft is downguaged. CX is currently down to sixty-five flights per week dropping YVR & SFO among others as Flight crew are no longer exempt from quarentine when returning to HKG.
Looks like the 881/883 strategy is the best bet, thanks all!
#1730
Join Date: Mar 2017
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30,410 passengers
Cathay Pacific said Wednesday (17 February) that its January 2021 traffic figures showed the airline carried a total of 30,410 passengers last month, a decrease of 99 percent compared to January 2020
Good luck!
James
#1731
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 519
I have not used AS points to book CX flight before, I have few questions:
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
#1732
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
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I have not used AS points to book CX flight before, I have few questions:
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
2) Yes, you can get a stopover in HKG on a one-way CX award to or from the US/North America.
3) According to the Alaska Award chart it is 62,500 miles in Business Class - One Way (which can include a stopover in HKG).
#1733
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Thanks STT for clearing all my doubts. Last question before calling AS for booking, is BA only site to check award availability?
#1734
Join Date: Feb 2001
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While theoretically true, married segments can make the reality somewhat different. Frequently on routes I fly, when A-HKG-B is available, A-HKG and HKG-B are rarely available separately, making stopovers an extremely rare possibility.
#1735
Join Date: Nov 2013
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You can use QF, AA and JL as well, although bear in mind that availability on any of these may not be the same as availability via AS (particularly before AS joins OW).
#1736
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I have not used AS points to book CX flight before, I have few questions:
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
Is it possible to book from anywhere in USA to anywhere in India other than gateway cities?
I believe I can get HKG stop over on one way ticket, just want to confirm.
How much AS point I need to book in business class?
Thanks.
1) No, not anywhere. On the US side it must be either a CX gateway or a city that Alaska Air serves that connects to a CX gateway city (without backtracking: LAX-JFK-HKG not allowed, but JFK-SEA-HKG I think is allowed). In India it must be a city served by CX from HKG.
2) Yes, you can get a stopover in HKG on a one-way CX award to or from the US/North America.
3) According to the Alaska Award chart it is 62,500 miles in Business Class - One Way (which can include a stopover in HKG).
2) Yes, you can get a stopover in HKG on a one-way CX award to or from the US/North America.
3) According to the Alaska Award chart it is 62,500 miles in Business Class - One Way (which can include a stopover in HKG).
#1737
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
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1) Start searching at aa.com (American Airlines) for one-way flight from SFO or LAX to HKG. You can probably do this from an advanced search but I usually start with a simple one-way search like SFO-HKG, checking the "one way" box and the "redeem miles" box. When the results come up click on the "Calendar" view, then select non-stop and Business Class only. This will give you a nice availability calendar from the US gateway city to HKG.
2) Do another one-way search at aa.com as above to find a calendar of one-way award dates available from HKG-BOM.
3) Pick the available dates you found in the calendar searches for SFO-HKG (or LAX-HKG) and HKG-BOM to create a stopover of your desired duration in HKG.
4) Search for Alaska Airlines awards from MCI-to SFO (or LAX if that is where your CX flight departs) on the date your CX flight departs. Make sure there will be plenty of time to connect to your CX flight. Here I might use QF or AA to search for MCI-SFO/LAX but looking for flights only on AS (you cannot have AA flights currently mixed with CX). If you search for these flights on AS you may find availability that is not combinable with a saver partner award unless you know what to look for which is why it may be better to look for availability for these AS awards on partner websites like QF or AA. Ideally you will find Business Class (First Class domestic on AS) availability but even if you only find Economy class availability from MCI-SFO/LAX you can add this to your CX award. Alternatively, it may be easier to use the QF search for MCI-HKG on your departure date but pick results that only use AS and CX.
5) Call Alaska Airlines to book. Start out by telling the agent you want to book an international partner award. Give them the information for the two CX flights (Business Class, Date, CX flight number) and have them confirm availability for the CX flights. Once they confirm availability for the CX flights tell them you need Alaska flights from MCI to connect to your CX flights and give the information on the AS awards you found to connect to your CX flights. Hopefully they can put it all together. If they have trouble booking it all at once then I would book only the CX flights and call back to add the AS flights.
Last edited by skimthetrees; Feb 23, 2021 at 7:02 am
#1738
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
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When the married segment problem comes up it is usually not the the US to HKG availability that is restricted. It is usually HKG-Asia that is restricted by married segments and there are ways around that problem described in this thread.
#1739
Join Date: Sep 2011
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You haven't mentioned dates that I see, but you should be aware that LAX is currently the only west coast departure point in N. America for CX. YVR and SFO have been temporarily suspended, in addition to SEA, which was already suspended thru June of 2022.
Good luck and safe travels.
#1740
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
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Looks like SFO is currently scheduled to restart in April.