GGU question - no U space
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GGU question - no U space
Hello FT'ers,
Like many of you I have GGU's that will be expiring this year. I have been able to use them to upgrade our seats to OGG the past couple of years but no U space is showing available right now. My question is if I book tickets with the GGU upgrade option and select tickets under the First Class Upgrade column will I get upgraded if and when U space becomes available? I would also have had entered my certificate numbers in at the time of booking.
Thanks!
Like many of you I have GGU's that will be expiring this year. I have been able to use them to upgrade our seats to OGG the past couple of years but no U space is showing available right now. My question is if I book tickets with the GGU upgrade option and select tickets under the First Class Upgrade column will I get upgraded if and when U space becomes available? I would also have had entered my certificate numbers in at the time of booking.
Thanks!
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Hello FT'ers,
Like many of you I have GGU's that will be expiring this year. I have been able to use them to upgrade our seats to OGG the past couple of years but no U space is showing available right now. My question is if I book tickets with the GGU upgrade option and select tickets under the First Class Upgrade column will I get upgraded if and when U space becomes available? I would also have had entered my certificate numbers in at the time of booking.
Thanks!
Like many of you I have GGU's that will be expiring this year. I have been able to use them to upgrade our seats to OGG the past couple of years but no U space is showing available right now. My question is if I book tickets with the GGU upgrade option and select tickets under the First Class Upgrade column will I get upgraded if and when U space becomes available? I would also have had entered my certificate numbers in at the time of booking.
Thanks!
#3
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If you join expertflyer.com ($10/month) you can set up an "alert" and they will send you an email as soon as U space is released. If U space is never released, the alert just expires. If you are going to buy a ticket regardless of whether or not U space is available, this is a great way to go. Over the years I have had good success doing this in order to put my GGU's to good use.
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If you join expertflyer.com ($10/month) you can set up an "alert" and they will send you an email as soon as U space is released. If U space is never released, the alert just expires. If you are going to buy a ticket regardless of whether or not U space is available, this is a great way to go. Over the years I have had good success doing this in order to put my GGU's to good use.
I checked for U space on an itinerary I had and found U available. I called AS to attach a GGU and did so without issue. Subsequently, I received an EF Alert showing the U space which I had already taken and U0 was available. An alert also isn't a guarantee that it will still be there at the time of receipt. Any latency between EF finding U and sending the alert or within your email provider is an opportunity for someone else to benefit.
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I meant, 2 different people on different reservations.
If you are waiting for U space, and I am waiting for U space, and only 1 seat is ever released then only one of us is getting a seat, regardless if how good the alerting system is. It's not a latency issue, it's a supply and demand issue.
Having a lower latency system just makes it more likely that the other guy gets screwed instead of you. Which is fine
If you are waiting for U space, and I am waiting for U space, and only 1 seat is ever released then only one of us is getting a seat, regardless if how good the alerting system is. It's not a latency issue, it's a supply and demand issue.
Having a lower latency system just makes it more likely that the other guy gets screwed instead of you. Which is fine
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I meant, 2 different people on different reservations.
If you are waiting for U space, and I am waiting for U space, and only 1 seat is ever released then only one of us is getting a seat, regardless if how good the alerting system is. It's not a latency issue, it's a supply and demand issue.
Having a lower latency system just makes it more likely that the other guy gets screwed instead of you. Which is fine
If you are waiting for U space, and I am waiting for U space, and only 1 seat is ever released then only one of us is getting a seat, regardless if how good the alerting system is. It's not a latency issue, it's a supply and demand issue.
Having a lower latency system just makes it more likely that the other guy gets screwed instead of you. Which is fine
EF has also alerted me of U availability that was no longer there because "I" found it and took it before receiving the Alert.
It is a good tool, but shouldn't be 100% relied upon. It shouldn't preclude you from doing you own random checks to possibly find that "gem" in that "some amount of time that passes"
I would rather sit in Y with my partner than alone in F without him. Conpanion Certificates and GGUs have been very good for us even with the tighter availability and we secure the upgrades that way. Of course, as leisure travelers, we do have flexibility. I will be 75K through 2020. We will see how things are with a more consistent intergrated pmVX product and assess as appropriate.
James
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What does this mean to you? If you select a GGU fare on a route without current U space, then make it to the upgrade windows without U space available in the interim, other flyers with status will automatically be processed ahead of you since GGU fares don't qualify for waitlist upgrades. You will have paid a higher(usually) fare for nothing. You could get lucky in that there are fewer flyers with status than available U space, but that seems highly unlikely.
Your best bet is to find flights with U space at the time of booking. Good luck with that.
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...What does this mean to you? If you select a GGU fare on a route without current U space, then make it to the upgrade windows without U space available in the interim, other flyers with status will automatically be processed ahead of you since GGU fares don't qualify for waitlist upgrades. You will have paid a higher(usually) fare for nothing. You could get lucky in that there are fewer flyers with status than available U space, but that seems highly unlikely.
Your best bet is to find flights with U space at the time of booking. Good luck with that.
Your best bet is to find flights with U space at the time of booking. Good luck with that.
The only thing you have to remember is that, if you have requested the comp upgrade and U does open up, you have to call in and get removed from the waitlist before you can apply a GGU.
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Same here. Have booked two sets of flights to Hawaii using companion passes within the past month and found U In both directions for both bookings for two people. I look at all reasonable connecting cities and have always managed to find a decent option. As above, the key is flexibility.
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Same here. Have booked two sets of flights to Hawaii using companion passes within the past month and found U In both directions for both bookings for two people. I look at all reasonable connecting cities and have always managed to find a decent option. As above, the key is flexibility.
James
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Folks, it's not that GGU's are completely useless. Obviously, people can and do find opportunities to use them. The issue is the frequency with which they can be used. It used to be far easier to apply them at time of purchase, which is the only time they're easy to use. With the restrictions on U availability, the late opening of what little U space there is compared to the past, and the clumsiness of the process after initial purchase, they're far less useful than they used to be and are not a significant benefit of Mileage Plan anymore.