First class fares
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First class fares
Is there any rhyme or reason as to how Alaska price their 1st class fares and release their lower fares?
Specifically looking for fares LAS to SFO mid November, which have not budged from $550+ one-way for months
Specifically looking for fares LAS to SFO mid November, which have not budged from $550+ one-way for months
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There are round-trip F fares as low as $307 on AS in November. There are one-way F fares as low as $154. Maybe you're traveling around a high demand date (or time).
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Bear in mind that with tiny F cabins, all it takes is one family or business group of 4 and that leaves little else.
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As has been discussed in other recent threads, AS's revenue management has been a bit goofy on these ex-VX planes. It's almost as though they're applying a 16F RM strategy to an 8F cabin. With so few seats available in First on these Airbus planes, you're less likely to see as many discount premium cabin fares (although certain routes/times do have more available). It seems that, lately, often only one seat out of eight is being sold as a discount First fare (or is available as advance 'U' space), and the other seven are ridiculously priced. Many of the remaining seats go unsold due to these high fares. In my personal experience, when I flew ORD-LAX recently on an A320, coach was priced at $99, while First was priced at over $1200, with seven seats left in F. No one bought them, and they were all given away as complimentary upgrades two hours before departure. It seems as though it may take AS a while to get the RM just right.
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Thanks all - we are restricted to Nov 17, 2018 as it will connect to our VS SFO flight to LHR
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth
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You're flying the weekend before American Thanksgiving (which is November 22 this year). This is one of the busiest, craziest weekends in flying in the United States, up with the Sunday-Monday AFTER American Thanksgiving and the weekends immediately preceding and following Christmas also being peak travel times. Very high demand because people are flying to celebrate the holidays with family (think bank holiday weekend in the UK and then multiply it) and the ticket prices tend to reflect that. You'll find the airports to be crowded and the lines to be long.
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Given that the flight time is only around an hour coupled with the fact that there is no 100% guarantee the AS flight will be on an airbus, the options are either to wait it out and see if the prices drop or take the much lower fare now on UA.
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Thanks all - we are restricted to Nov 17, 2018 as it will connect to our VS SFO flight to LHR
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth
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This is the sort of thing that makes the marketers jump for joy. Even the remote chance that someone would pay $550 rather than $194 for what is roughly the exact same product, is a testament to their power.
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It isn't quite that simple. If they sell a $194 F seat on LAS/SFO, it means they may not sell a $700 F fare LAS/SFO/HNL (or pick a connecting route) if the LAS/SFO is full.
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The fact is that OP is complaining about a $550 ticket on AS and asking whether he should wait for the price to drop at the same time that he could purchase the roughly equivalent product on UA for $194.
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Whatever you do, on whatever airline, make sure you build in at least 4 hours of connection time. There's always a slight possibility that AS will send you to SJC or OAK on an inclement weather day, or that UA (and everyone else) will have 2+ hour delays, and several cancellations on an inclement weather day, most affected are the short hops.
VX F is a nice product, but on a 1 hour flight, it's worth about $50 more than UA, max. I'd buy UA and be done with it.
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Thanks all - we are restricted to Nov 17, 2018 as it will connect to our VS SFO flight to LHR
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth
Longtime VX flyer here who never failed to bag a First deal, usually flying SFO-LAS and return and was sad to see the demise of VX
Weve secured our SFO-LAS flight for a good price much earlier in the year but the wait for a decent return flight price is swaying me towards United, which I believe to be way inferior. I know it’s only a short flight but comfort is optimum for us, but not $500 worth