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Old Sep 11, 2018, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
Is there any other carrier that only allowed 1 free change within 24 hours?
DOT rules require 1 change or cancel within 24 hours of booking (most US carriers have been doing this since before it was a rule) or one hold., AA offers Hold everyone else 24 hour change/cancel
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
DOT rules require 1 change or cancel within 24 hours of booking (most US carriers have been doing this since before it was a rule) or one hold., AA offers Hold everyone else 24 hour change/cancel
I mean, I looked at other carrier's webpages and nobody states "1 change only" other than Alaska.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by missydarlin
You get one free change or can cancel and refund, within 24 hours.
The OP states that they had already taken advantage of the free change, which would negate the ability to then cancel and rebook with without penalty.
Then they attempted to make a second change and were charged the change fee for their non-Gold companion.
Thanks for the clarification. I guess the best path is to cancel and rebook from the get go rather than making a change as it allows you to maintain that extra flexibility.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
As the bloggers say when there is a "fare deal", buy first, then you can see whether it'll work out (and cancel if not)
Oh, I've definitely done this. During the WN fare sales, I'll sometimes snag something as soon as I see it because I know the $49's and $59's can disappear fast. (Sometimes I'm doing this on a competitor who's responding to the WN sale with even less inventory than WN.) Then I'll figure out that evening whether we actually want to do it (it usually involved wife or wife + kids) and, occasionally, cancel it entirely.

So the 1 change or free cancel thing is great. I've just never thought about trying to do a bunch of changes to one ticket. And thanks to this thread, I now know I actually can't do that on Alaska. It's best to just cancel and rebook a new PNR.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
I mean, I looked at other carrier's webpages and nobody states "1 change only" other than Alaska.
  • From reading DL they only make mention of allowing cancel in the 24 hours no mention of change at all.
  • AA is a hold so the concept of change/cancel does not apply. Once you pay AA operated flights you are locked in.
  • United FT wiki mentions that benefit only applies to the original purchase, which i interpret as once you can't it you cant change again once its reissued
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by halamadrid
Thanks for the clarification. I guess the best path is to cancel and rebook from the get go rather than making a change as it allows you to maintain that extra flexibility.
Its a little problematic when using a companion certificate, but otherwise, yes.
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by missydarlin
Its a little problematic when using a companion certificate, but otherwise, yes.
it's also frequently a nuisance after applying a GGU :/
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767
it's also frequently a nuisance after applying a GGU :/
Its the same nuisance as it is for any type of change when there is a GGU involved
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Old Sep 11, 2018, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
I doubt airlines will ever get good at separating customers. Look at the DYKWIA threads. Don't think that just because people whine doesn't mean they aren't high-value.
But they do a pretty good job of determining which whiners give them better financial return. See what kind of response a GS gets on UA vs a silver vs a non MP member.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 12:09 pm
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But they do a pretty good job of determining which whiners give them better financial return. See what kind of response a GS gets on UA vs a silver vs a non MP member.
That has nothing to do with whining.
I bet some GS whine a lot, some do not whine at all, and that silver whines more than gold and some nonMP members whine more than all of the above
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
DOT rules require 1 change or cancel within 24 hours of booking (most US carriers have been doing this since before it was a rule) or one hold., AA offers Hold everyone else 24 hour change/cancel
AA switched from 24-hour hold to 24-hour cancel/refund last year. Flights must be purchased at least 2 days prior to departure (which exceed DOT rules which only require refunds for flights purchased 7 days or more out)

"You have up to 24 hours from the time of ticket purchase for a refund if you booked at least 2 days prior to departure. The 24-hour refund policy applies to all ticket types, but you have to cancel the trip to get a refund."

https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-ser...rvice-faqs.jsp
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Air Carrier CRMs will get better at separating out the low value but high-whine customers.
Originally Posted by s0ssos
That has nothing to do with whining.
I bet some GS whine a lot, some do not whine at all, and that silver whines more than gold and some nonMP members whine more than all of the above
I think you're missing the other adjectival phrase that was in 3Cforme's original post. It's "low value but high whine" that the airlines separate out (bold added). If you're high value and high whine (like some 1K and GS, as can be seen on the UA forum very clearly) they just put up with you. If you're earning most of your AS miles on other airlines (if you're gold you're sitting in someone's airline seat, but since AS doesn't have a PQS requirement it isn't necessarily theirs) they might not see you as a high $ return.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by chrisl137
I think you're missing the other adjectival phrase that was in 3Cforme's original post. It's "low value but high whine" that the airlines separate out (bold added). If you're high value and high whine (like some 1K and GS, as can be seen on the UA forum very clearly) they just put up with you. If you're earning most of your AS miles on other airlines (if you're gold you're sitting in someone's airline seat, but since AS doesn't have a PQS requirement it isn't necessarily theirs) they might not see you as a high $ return.
I think there are very few people who are gold on AS from flying other carriers. It is too hard to get. AS has no domestic partners who earn miles.
Back in the day there was DL and AA but that was years ago.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
I think there are very few people who are gold on AS from flying other carriers. It is too hard to get. AS has no domestic partners who earn miles.
Back in the day there was DL and AA but that was years ago.

AA was a full partner literally last year.
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Old Sep 12, 2018, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
I think there are very few people who are gold on AS from flying other carriers. It is too hard to get. AS has no domestic partners who earn miles.
Back in the day there was DL and AA but that was years ago.
Very easy to get status through partners if you take one or two long-haul trips in PE or J.
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