New Carry-On Size Policy - Reports and Effects (6/4/2018)
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I find this whole conversation rather amusing. People complain that people bring on too big and too much carry ons. Want more enforcement of sizes and amounts. Now that it is happening it is the opposite complaint. They never got stopped before, they have always been able to bring on their bag. A wise person once said, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I only carry on a backpack so never have to deal with it either way.
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I find this whole conversation rather amusing. People complain that people bring on too big and too much carry ons. Want more enforcement of sizes and amounts. Now that it is happening it is the opposite complaint. They never got stopped before, they have always been able to bring on their bag. A wise person once said, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I only carry on a backpack so never have to deal with it either way.
These days I'm carryon only guy, and it irks me when I see pax bring on carryons that have to go in sideways given how large the overhead bins are.
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And like any big policy change, there will be major enforcement at the beginning then it will start to get less and less enforcement then things will be back they way they were before, not size wise, but enforcement wise.
And a little story about enforcement at SEA a few days ago. Getting on my flight from SEA to SJC there was a lady with a roll aboard. She pushed her way to the front of the boarding queue with a very big roll aboard, doubt it was even within the old size limits. She got told 3 times to put it in the sizer. She walked away, then pushed way to front again. I kept watching her as it was giving me some entertainment. I boarded when my group was called A little bit later she comes on and I see she still has her bag, she somehow snuck it past the GA and got it onboard. Now the funny part. It didn't fit in the overhead, not even sideways and she had to gate check it anyways. She was very mad saying it has always fit in every plane she has ever been on including the little ones (her words). Caused a big hassle as this was the middle of boarding and she had to fight her way upstream like a salmon to get back to the front of the plane. I saw the GA come aboard and she told the lady she had been told multiple times it would have to be gate checked and it wasn't cool that she somehow got past the GA with it and was now holding everyone up. Lady repeated the part about it always fit before. GA tagged the bag and told the lady to take her seat. I see the lady go past where she was trying to stuff the bag and went to almost the very back of the plane. I think I know how she snuck it on, the position the had the sizer left a space and it was right next to the boarding door. I bet she stashed it behind the sizer, did the BP thing with the GA then grabbed her bag as she went through the door and the GA would never see. I would be this was a 26" suitcase and it was expanded.
And a little story about enforcement at SEA a few days ago. Getting on my flight from SEA to SJC there was a lady with a roll aboard. She pushed her way to the front of the boarding queue with a very big roll aboard, doubt it was even within the old size limits. She got told 3 times to put it in the sizer. She walked away, then pushed way to front again. I kept watching her as it was giving me some entertainment. I boarded when my group was called A little bit later she comes on and I see she still has her bag, she somehow snuck it past the GA and got it onboard. Now the funny part. It didn't fit in the overhead, not even sideways and she had to gate check it anyways. She was very mad saying it has always fit in every plane she has ever been on including the little ones (her words). Caused a big hassle as this was the middle of boarding and she had to fight her way upstream like a salmon to get back to the front of the plane. I saw the GA come aboard and she told the lady she had been told multiple times it would have to be gate checked and it wasn't cool that she somehow got past the GA with it and was now holding everyone up. Lady repeated the part about it always fit before. GA tagged the bag and told the lady to take her seat. I see the lady go past where she was trying to stuff the bag and went to almost the very back of the plane. I think I know how she snuck it on, the position the had the sizer left a space and it was right next to the boarding door. I bet she stashed it behind the sizer, did the BP thing with the GA then grabbed her bag as she went through the door and the GA would never see. I would be this was a 26" suitcase and it was expanded.
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I find this whole conversation rather amusing. People complain that people bring on too big and too much carry ons. Want more enforcement of sizes and amounts. Now that it is happening it is the opposite complaint. They never got stopped before, they have always been able to bring on their bag. A wise person once said, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I only carry on a backpack so never have to deal with it either way.
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First, it's a weight & balance issue. Carry-ons are included in the passenger's weight for W&B purposes, while checked bags are included separately. Everything is an average. It is a safety issue and there is zero-tolerance. Once it is in the system, the fact that the bag disappeared between the podium at the gate and the aircraft hold is potentially a big deal.
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for practical purposes, you're right. but to meet regulations and safety demands, checked bag count does matter.
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Yes, of course hold luggage and cargo weight is important, but if the bag in the scenario above doesn't end up making it into the hold, the bag is not part of the loaded baggage weight used for W&B calculation. It doesn't mean the bag must be found and must be loaded into the hold before plane can't take off or something (as the poster seemed to imply using W&B as a reason). Otherwise we'd never have lost bags that were checked in but failed to get loaded onto the plane. Following that, the fact that said bag ended up as a carry-on instead isn't a W&B issue - carry-on weights and locations, or lack of carry-on, are never known with precision in the first place. That was the point.
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PDX to Seattle this morning. GA said FAA inspector was on the ramp. Really thought my bag would fit the sized. Nope. Wasn’t paying too much attention to others so not sure how stringent they were being. Looks like I’ll be in the market for a new carryon. Anyone had experience with the Tumi V3 Continental carryon?
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
#147
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PDX to Seattle this morning. GA said FAA inspector was on the ramp. Really thought my bag would fit the sized. Nope. Wasn’t paying too much attention to others so not sure how stringent they were being. Looks like I’ll be in the market for a new carryon. Anyone had experience with the Tumi V3 Continental carryon?
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
Can someone who has experienced this please clarify this - I'll be more annoyed if gate-check fee is charged specially from mvps.
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I was not charged a fee. I did hear another gate agent telling someone (pretty sure the pax wasn’t elite) that they should be charging a fee but that she was going to waive it.
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PDX to Seattle this morning. GA said FAA inspector was on the ramp. Really thought my bag would fit the sized. Nope. Wasn’t paying too much attention to others so not sure how stringent they were being. Looks like I’ll be in the market for a new carryon. Anyone had experience with the Tumi V3 Continental carryon?
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
https://www.ebags.com/product/tumi/v...uctid=10583280
If this bag fits though I'll feel much better about my 19" x 14.5" x 9" not being denied for being half an inch too wide.....