Book JAL flight, marketed by AA: mileage earnings on AS?
#17
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Yes.
No, they are only good on Alaska flights. There is really no incentive for BA, JL or EK to allow AS loyalty program members upgrade for free (it would in fact be a DISincentive to credit to their program). AS is partners with these airlines but not in alliance with them, so there isn't even that small reason to allow it.
No, they are only good on Alaska flights. There is really no incentive for BA, JL or EK to allow AS loyalty program members upgrade for free (it would in fact be a DISincentive to credit to their program). AS is partners with these airlines but not in alliance with them, so there isn't even that small reason to allow it.
#18
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Yes.
No, they are only good on Alaska flights. There is really no incentive for BA, JL or EK to allow AS loyalty program members upgrade for free (it would in fact be a DISincentive to credit to their program). AS is partners with these airlines but not in alliance with them, so there isn't even that small reason to allow it.
No, they are only good on Alaska flights. There is really no incentive for BA, JL or EK to allow AS loyalty program members upgrade for free (it would in fact be a DISincentive to credit to their program). AS is partners with these airlines but not in alliance with them, so there isn't even that small reason to allow it.
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#19
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I have a very similar situation to OP. I flew JL118 ITM-HND in I class as part of a longer AA-marketed (and otherwise AA-operated) itinerary. All AA-operated flights posted to my AS MP account in a couple of days but the AA-marketed, JL-operated flight from ITM to HND has not posted. Should I request missing partner mileage credit as Japan Airlines (JL118) or as American (AA8464)? Alternatively, I could request missing mileage credit to my AAdvantage account since miles did not post to AS, but in this case I'd prefer both EQM and RDM on AS vs AA.
Also, would AS EQM for this segment by 500 miles or 350 miles (500 * 70%). Actual distance for this segment was under 500 miles.
Any insights appreciated.
Also, would AS EQM for this segment by 500 miles or 350 miles (500 * 70%). Actual distance for this segment was under 500 miles.
Any insights appreciated.
#20
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And you should be asking for credit for the JL flight number, since the AA number will be out of the range of allowed AA flights. Did you save your boarding pass?
#21
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I have a very similar situation to OP. I flew JL118 ITM-HND in I class as part of a longer AA-marketed (and otherwise AA-operated) itinerary. All AA-operated flights posted to my AS MP account in a couple of days but the AA-marketed, JL-operated flight from ITM to HND has not posted. Should I request missing partner mileage credit as Japan Airlines (JL118) or as American (AA8464)? Alternatively, I could request missing mileage credit to my AAdvantage account since miles did not post to AS, but in this case I'd prefer both EQM and RDM on AS vs AA.
Also, would AS EQM for this segment by 500 miles or 350 miles (500 * 70%). Actual distance for this segment was under 500 miles.
Any insights appreciated.
Also, would AS EQM for this segment by 500 miles or 350 miles (500 * 70%). Actual distance for this segment was under 500 miles.
Any insights appreciated.
For X and above
EQM = 625
RDM = 1125 Non Elite, 1375, 1625, 1750
For I class
EQM = 500
RDM = 1000 Non Elite, 1250, 1500, 1625.
James
#22
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You can request a manual posting through the online link. You will require sending a copy of the boarding pass which will have the AA Flight number. The miles credited will always be a minimum of 500 + COS + BONUS + ELITE. If this was an X class or higher (accural will be based on the charts of the operating carrier) you would receive 500 min + 125 Cos = 625 as EDQ & RDM + BONUS of 500 RDM + Elite bonus of 250, 500, 625 for MVP, MVPG and MVPG75K respectively as additional RDM. If it was I class then it would be 500 min + no COS as EQM + 500 Bonus + Elite bonus.
For X and above
EQM = 625
RDM = 1125 Non Elite, 1375, 1625, 1750
For I class
EQM = 500
RDM = 1000 Non Elite, 1250, 1500, 1625.
James
For X and above
EQM = 625
RDM = 1125 Non Elite, 1375, 1625, 1750
For I class
EQM = 500
RDM = 1000 Non Elite, 1250, 1500, 1625.
James
I'm still not entirely clear about whether to seek credit for the AA flight or the JL flight. Perhaps I just should send both receipt and boarding pass and let AS figure out how and if they want to credit my AS account.
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Again, the AA number is going to be out of the creditable AA flight number ranges anyway, so it's not really an option. Just send the boarding pass and E-ticket receipt, and specify the JL flight number in your email. Digging through my sent emails right now; when I flew an AA-marketed/BA-operated segment a couple of years ago, I just attached the documents and specified my name and Mileage Plan number plus the BA flight number and date in the email body.
#24
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Again, the AA number is going to be out of the creditable AA flight number ranges anyway, so it's not really an option. Just send the boarding pass and E-ticket receipt, and specify the JL flight number in your email. Digging through my sent emails right now; when I flew an AA-marketed/BA-operated segment a couple of years ago, I just attached the documents and specified my name and Mileage Plan number plus the BA flight number and date in the email body.
James
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#26
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I'm having pretty much the same situation with OP. Thinking about flying YVR-NRT-PVG on flights operated by JAL. The same ticket is available on both jal.com and aa.com, showing up as I fare. Trying to figure out if I can accrue AS miles by AA's chart (100% base + 50% COS) rather than JAL's (70% base)
Looking at aa's earning rules on AS website, they did not specify what number ranges are eligible for earning AS miles. The only restriction for international flights is "the two-letter airline code (AA) must precede the flight number (for example, AA XXXX) on your ticket receipt or boarding pass." Is the number range available somewhere in their fine print or is it just enforced by their agents?
My apologies for popping this old thread up. Any insight is appreciated.
My apologies for popping this old thread up. Any insight is appreciated.
#27
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I'm having pretty much the same situation with OP. Thinking about flying YVR-NRT-PVG on flights operated by JAL. The same ticket is available on both jal.com and aa.com, showing up as I fare. Trying to figure out if I can accrue AS miles by AA's chart (100% base + 50% COS) rather than JAL's (70% base)
If you purchase an AA marketed JL flight the JL chart prevails.
James
#28
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Technically, in order to credit to AS the flight must be marketed and operated by the partner airline and fall within the designated flight number range. If it is a codeshare it will never credit automatically. Generally, however, if the marketing airline and operating airline are both AS partners AS will allow a credit of miles upon a manual request with the appropriate documentation based on the operating carrier charts.
If you purchase an AA marketed JL flight the JL chart prevails.
James
If you purchase an AA marketed JL flight the JL chart prevails.
James
I bought an AA codeshare entirely on JL metal. I gave my AS number for mileage credit before checkin and it appears on my bp. I guess I have to do a manual request for the mileage to post?? Who do I email the boarding passes to (and do I need to send copy of ticket as well?).
2 complicating factors - ticket was purchased through AA vacations (don't think this should matter)
Agent put AA number in box for priority boarding but my AS # is still on the boarding pass in another area. She claimed this would NOT change the credit to AA rather than AS - I asked her twice!!
It may be the case that the miles appeared in my AA acct but not in my AS account - which is what worries me - what should I do?
#29
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1. Check to see if it credited to AA.
2. If it did, call AA and ask for it to be removed. This is apparently a easier process on AA than other airlines.
2(b) this may be more compacted since it's not AA metal. They may ask you to call JAL.
3. Once you see it gone (again, check your account) request credit to AS.
However, my understanding of AA policies is that once you accept AAdvantage benefits (eg, priority boarding) you cannot credit to another FFP. I'm not sure if that only apples to AA metal, or if it's a OW thing. JAL gave you OW benefits, and now you want to credit somewhere else? That seems like an unreasonable request to me, but still worth a shot.
#30
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"May be the case"? Did you forget your AA password or something?
1. Check to see if it credited to AA.
2. If it did, call AA and ask for it to be removed. This is apparently a easier process on AA than other airlines.
2(b) this may be more compacted since it's not AA metal. They may ask you to call JAL.
3. Once you see it gone (again, check your account) request credit to AS.
However, my understanding of AA policies is that once you accept AAdvantage benefits (eg, priority boarding) you cannot credit to another FFP. I'm not sure if that only apples to AA metal, or if it's a OW thing. JAL gave you OW benefits, and now you want to credit somewhere else? That seems like an unreasonable request to me, but still worth a shot.
1. Check to see if it credited to AA.
2. If it did, call AA and ask for it to be removed. This is apparently a easier process on AA than other airlines.
2(b) this may be more compacted since it's not AA metal. They may ask you to call JAL.
3. Once you see it gone (again, check your account) request credit to AS.
However, my understanding of AA policies is that once you accept AAdvantage benefits (eg, priority boarding) you cannot credit to another FFP. I'm not sure if that only apples to AA metal, or if it's a OW thing. JAL gave you OW benefits, and now you want to credit somewhere else? That seems like an unreasonable request to me, but still worth a shot.