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AS ranks last in award availability, per Wall Street Journal

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Old May 16, 18, 4:54 am
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AS ranks last in award availability, per Wall Street Journal

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Old May 16, 18, 5:14 am
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Why would jetblue be under 100% since its points per dollar similar to Southwest?
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Old May 16, 18, 5:46 am
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AA is above UA and DL with 82% availability rate?
I am highly doubting the accuracy of this article.
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Old May 16, 18, 8:32 am
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This is specifically looking at "saver" award availability but I can't find the actual report to see what they mean by saver. Can I always find award flights for 5k on my favourite award route? No. Can I find them at 7.5k? Yes, if I'm willing to adjust my travel by a day or two either way.

Seems like another weird "we're airline experts" report from people who don't know what they're talking about.
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Old May 16, 18, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by missamo80 View Post

Seems like another weird "we're airline experts" report from people who don't know what they're talking about.
IdeaWorks has been doing this a long time. They have their detractors but their methods here are sound.

http://www.ideaworkscompany.com/wp-c...ard-Survey.pdf
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Old May 16, 18, 8:59 am
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Not buying it. WN may claim 100% WGA availability, but they are "priced" dynamically, not always a good redemption value. Also don't believe the 82.1% for AA, unless this too allows for dynamic "prices" - particularly for weekend travel. It appears AS is being penalized for honest use of a mid-tier award bucket.
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I can't seem to ever find saver F awards on AS metal from all states to CA except AK-CA.
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Old May 16, 18, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
IdeaWorks has been doing this a long time. They have their detractors but their methods here are sound.

http://www.ideaworkscompany.com/wp-c...ard-Survey.pdf
Thanks for sending a link to the actual report, I couldn't find it and it helps to read the real thing. I maintain their methods are dumb. They specifically measured "Saver-style rewards require the minimum number of miles (or points) and are limited in supply".

Do I really care if there's no 5k award on my route when I can get a 7.5k award? No.
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Old May 16, 18, 10:56 am
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Do I really care if there's no 5k award on my route when I can get a 7.5k award? No.
If it's a $49 fare, it does matter -- and I personally would probably pay cash whether it's a 5k award or a 7.5k award. But the bottom line for me would be the value I am getting for my points, not what the absolute number of points is I am spending.
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Old May 16, 18, 11:36 am
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This doesn't factor in value for your points, that is way to in-depth for the average person to understand
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Old May 16, 18, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff View Post
If it's a $49 fare, it does matter -- and I personally would probably pay cash whether it's a 5k award or a 7.5k award. But the bottom line for me would be the value I am getting for my points, not what the absolute number of points is I am spending.
Which this survey doesn't look at either.
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Old May 16, 18, 2:23 pm
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Huh? How can they exclude anything but "saver" awards but allow any award in airlines with dynamic pricing and maintain this is a reasonable comparison?
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Old May 16, 18, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by missamo80 View Post
Which this survey doesn't look at either.
I haven't looked at it, but it would have shocked me to learn that they considered it
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Old May 16, 18, 2:31 pm
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Huh? How can they exclude anything but "saver" awards but allow any award in airlines with dynamic pricing and maintain this is a reasonable comparison?
They also only look at availability 3-7 months out, so programs that dump their awards at beginning of schedule or release close in could compare unfavorably against programs that dole it out throughout or release during that period.

A number of those busiest long haul and busiest medium haul routes for the majors are going to be hub-hub routes where frequencies (and opportunities for awards) are going to be higher, particularly at unpopular times of day.
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Old May 16, 18, 2:32 pm
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Anecdotally, when looking for international award space, finding the correct domestic availability to match the international flight has been increasingly difficult. Again though, that's just my observation and don't know if its indicative of a larger availability trend.
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