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Offers of a Pre-Departure Beverage (PDB) [2019 and Earlier]

Offers of a Pre-Departure Beverage (PDB) [2019 and Earlier]

Old May 16, 2019, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by sullim4
No PDB on the SEA-LIH morning flight this past Monday, just water.

I sent mail regarding the flight attendant serving F. It was easily the worst F service I ever had on any airline. A six hour flight and he's reading the paper for an hour and a half and we get offered beverages TWICE. Y got beverages offered more often. We ask for them one-off and he never gets them, then "remembers" 20 minutes before landing.

This was worse than the Economy Light service I got on Virgin Atlantic two weeks ago. Completely unacceptable.

Alaska's service needs work.
To follow up, we each got $100 vouchers. I kind of thought it was funny that the response specifically mentioned the FA forgetting to bring "alcoholic" beverages for us when we had just asked for Diet Cokes. I thought the compensation was fair.
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Old May 16, 2019, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by nookanaya
Alaska PDB bingo cards anyone?
My favorite one so far is "we don't serve them on flights this short" (LAX-SFO)
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Old May 16, 2019, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
My favorite one so far is "we don't serve them on flights this short" (LAX-SFO)
Ha. Like the pre-departure time is different.

Before the flight, asking for the in-flight beverage is nice and efficient. But it is not a pdb.

Today.
PDB: Only water at the seat.
Hot towel during flight: no.

Earlier this week:
PDB: Only water.
Hot towel in flight: yes.
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Old May 17, 2019, 9:13 pm
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LAX-SFO today: pm VX plane. Full bar. First time up front on one of these.
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Old May 17, 2019, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by williwaw
LAX-SFO today: pm VX plane. Full bar. First time up front on one of these.
Nice! You got the pmVX treatment too
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Old May 17, 2019, 10:24 pm
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I'm married to an in-flight trainer at a US airline. I know how it works at their airline. Apparently AS is different.

Originally Posted by RAD_PDX
AS Flyer is an FA, so they know what they are talking about...
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Old May 17, 2019, 10:25 pm
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This is the Alaska norm...at least for me.

Originally Posted by pcoll
LAX/SEA 1052 5/15
Water at seat. NO PDB
Flight was double catered from SEA so, galley already stocked. Could tell FA had no intention of serving PDB because
FA's spent boarding just chatting with each other. Did not bother to acknowledge boarding passengers.
F passenger went forward with jacket only to be told, "sorry we don't have closets" and then back to their chat.
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Old May 17, 2019, 11:04 pm
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My experience with AS in first would indicate a bad disconnect. From?

A) communication
B) AFA/lack of effort
C) training
D) par to AS' performance after merger=bad

Originally Posted by n7371f
This is the Alaska norm...at least for me.
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Old May 17, 2019, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by FrankMantooth
My experience with AS in first would indicate a bad disconnect. From?

A) communication
B) AFA/lack of effort
C) training
D) par to AS' performance after merger=bad
Sometimes I get FAs who are just lazy. They want to spend the whole flight chatting with the other FA. They don't care that they at work and have a job to do.

But then sometimes I get FAs who are not -- they are attentive and good -- but they still don't do PDBs. In this case, I assume that the problem is lack of training.
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Old May 17, 2019, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by n7371f
I'm married to an in-flight trainer at a US airline. I know how it works at their airline. Apparently AS is different.
I'm confused - what is it that your spouse knows about AS that I don't? Just for the record, I'm pretty familiar with what the training department is teaching the new hires. Really familiar. So I'm super interested in what your spouse might know that I don't?
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Old May 19, 2019, 11:20 pm
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Was offered mimosas after boarding an evening ANC-SEA flight today. Appreciated the offer and figured I'd better have (one or two) to avoid any chance of scurvy...
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Old May 20, 2019, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by pcoll
LAX/SEA 1052 5/15
Water at seat. NO PDB
Flight was double catered from SEA so, galley already stocked. Could tell FA had no intention of serving PDB because
FA's spent boarding just chatting with each other. Did not bother to acknowledge boarding passengers.
F passenger went forward with jacket only to be told, "sorry we don't have closets" and then back to their chat.

Last edited by pcoll; May 21, 2019 at 4:07 pm
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Old May 20, 2019, 8:42 pm
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SEA/AUS 5/20 - water at seat, offered sparkling wine

Airbus but with classic AS cabin crew
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Old May 21, 2019, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by pcoll
Interesting DP.
Sent AS Customer Care input regarding lack of PDB on our last two flights. We traveled on separate PNR's on those flights in paid F. Used format suggested up thread and submitted one for each passenger, with identical wording.
One response was the cookie cutter response, "sorry, will pass on information to Food and Beverage Manager etc". This was for wife PNR's.
Next response was very personal. Starting with " thank you for being MVP , we value your loyalty. Included is a $50 discount code and our apologies".
This was for husband.
Now, this has happened many times before.
Once, accepted Discount Code offered by GA to each of us .
Emails received from AS and...
Husband received the promised $125 and wife received $50. (Called AS MVP line and they quickly corrected wife account as they were able to see GA message)

Usually, One of us gets basic, "too bad, so sad ". The other gets all kinds of "we are so sorry, please use this discount to give us another chance ".
Not sure it is sexist but, husband always gets response indicating their interest in maintaining his loyalty. Wife, not really.
Chuckling right now, it has happened again.
Sent customer care emails regarding issues with our last flight. Separate PNR's.
Wife received reply yesterday.
Usual reply citing safety and operational issues with AS.
Thanks - will pass on information type of response.

Today, Husband gets reply from Customer Care.
Apologetic and effusive response thanking him for MVP loyalty and hoping they can make it up in the future.
Discount Code was enclosed.
Both Customer Care employees who responded were female.
So......
Seems pretty definitive, unless wife's account is tagged somehow?
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Old May 21, 2019, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by pcoll
Chuckling right now, it has happened again.
Sent customer care emails regarding issues with our last flight. Separate PNR's.
Wife received reply yesterday.
Usual reply citing safety and operational issues with AS.
Thanks - will pass on information type of response.

Today, Husband gets reply from Customer Care.
Apologetic and effusive response thanking him for MVP loyalty and hoping they can make it up in the future.
Discount Code was enclosed.
Both Customer Care employees who responded were female.
So......
Have you thought about writing in and asking them to escalate it to management? If you make an accusation of sexism and back it up with potential evidence, which it sounds like you have, I would like to think you would get a response. There may be other factors at play, and if so, it would be nice to know what those are. Is your name on the credit card for both reservations? Seems random but if everything else really is the same, I'm not sure what else it could be.

Originally Posted by pcoll
Seems pretty definitive, unless wife's account is tagged somehow?
Has she made several more late baggage claims or other complaints than you?
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