Upcoming AS Route Cuts
Feb 25, 2018, 9:39 am
#121
Join Date: May 2006
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Feb 25, 2018, 9:52 am
#122
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Feb 25, 2018, 11:52 am
#123
Join Date: May 2013
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One has to wonder if they are expecting another QX meltdown and need the aircraft just in case, if they will just keep more spares around for the summer, or will shift more capacity to the PNW. They haven’t done much route specific advertising and I doubt many people even knew AS was flying to MEX or had service to MSP from SFO. The more west coast campaign may actually be hurting them as people assume they don’t go anywhere but the West Coast and people thinking they now go everywhere from the West Coast find they go to very few places.
Feb 25, 2018, 1:32 pm
#124
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon
Programs: Hilton Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold
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If you cut flights, but want to maintain the same or more seats on the overall network then you need to add something somewhere.
Alaska has already said they will cut growth this year to small numbers. We know that right now Paine Field is announced as 9 new routes plus 13 daily departures. There will likely be added routes in summer network wide, as always, to supplement the network. But that's nothing new.
Alaska has already said they will cut growth this year to small numbers. We know that right now Paine Field is announced as 9 new routes plus 13 daily departures. There will likely be added routes in summer network wide, as always, to supplement the network. But that's nothing new.
Feb 25, 2018, 1:45 pm
#126
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While also wasting the time of the government which now needs to hold another slot reallocation which could have been used by another carrier that actually wanted the slots and not just dump them after 6 months. AS is not building up a good track record in this regard. It is also difficult to know if one’s favorite route will be on the chopping block next which undercuts their hope to build loyalty.
Feb 25, 2018, 2:58 pm
#127
Join Date: May 2010
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While also wasting the time of the government which now needs to hold another slot reallocation which could have been used by another carrier that actually wanted the slots and not just dump them after 6 months. AS is not building up a good track record in this regard. It is also difficult to know if one’s favorite route will be on the chopping block next which undercuts their hope to build loyalty.
Feb 25, 2018, 6:31 pm
#130
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: BART Platinum, AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,158
Not surprising. Hub to hub is the last route they want to compete on, so most at risk are LAX, NYC, ORD, DEN, WAS, and IAH. LAX and NYC have to remain by virtue of being the number 1 and 2 markets respectively. ORD is already cut down to 1x, and IAH never began. DEN is the logical next step. WAS is a little weird because DCA and BWI are at least somewhat differentiated from IAD.
Feb 25, 2018, 6:32 pm
#131
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They took 4 and are now using 2 so half the slots were temporarily taken away from carriers that could have made better use of them.
Feb 25, 2018, 6:36 pm
#132
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
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Feb 25, 2018, 7:15 pm
#133
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Feb 25, 2018, 8:00 pm
#134
Join Date: May 2013
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AS already had 2 LAX slots, so no the SFO slot is not being moved to LAX. That is not how the slot allocation works. The slot times and point of departure are locked in once awarded.
They took 4 and are now using 2 so half the slots were temporarily taken away from carriers that could have made better use of them.
Feb 25, 2018, 8:18 pm
#135
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