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Old Aug 3, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
Just to be clear, it is one Partner per direction. You can book an award as a return or two one-ways. So you could book JL LAX-TYO-ICN & KE ICN-LAX. Either way will allow a stopover; two stopovers for a return and one stopover on the one-way award.

AA LAX-NRT is 110K AS Miles in F, JL SFO-HND is 75K AS miles in F. Both allow AS connecting flights to the gayeway, yet only JL will allow you to continue on beyond Tokyo with or without a stopover. Easy to see where the better value is. ^

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Yup, got it.

Just used to combining partners for a reward, like Asiana to ICN to SQ to NRT (don't know about AS, but SQ does NOT release any reward flights to UA except intra Asia) to UA. The stopover on a one way is a nice perk UA does not have.

And I fully expect to retire my flying days with exaclty ONE flight in Int'l First - a splurge after reading a trip report on TG A380 with Dom Perignon just before UA devalued reward redemption.
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Old Aug 3, 2018, 10:52 pm
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BOA Companion Fare Question

OK, I called AS on this but I'm still dubious. Booking a Companion Fare ticket for me and the GF. GF is 100% going but my plans my change. They told me to book myself as the Primary and her as the companion. Can someone confirm this is accurate? I understand that I will need to pay a change fee/fare difference but just want to be sure I won't have to pay another change fee for her and she can keep the original reservation. Thanks!

UPDATE: I called again and spoke with a more experienced agent. She said I should book myself as the COMPANION. I thought that was the case!

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Old Aug 4, 2018, 12:50 am
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Quick question - There's an "Asia to Asia" under Cathay/JAL in the award chart, and the map shows Asia as.... REALLY big. Including up to turkey, so basically all of continental Asia. Is it really only 45k RT in J (CX) or 50k (JAL) for, say, HKG-AMM (that's the furthest west i can see included)? HKG-DXB? HKG-TYO? TYO-DOH? Thanks!

What would the stopover rules on such a RT be?

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Old Aug 4, 2018, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Quick question - There's an "Asia to Asia" under Cathay/JAL in the award chart, and the map shows Asia as.... REALLY big. Including up to turkey, so basically all of continental Asia. Is it really only 45k RT in J (CX) or 50k (JAL) for, say, HKG-AMM (that's the furthest west i can see included)? HKG-DXB? HKG-TYO? TYO-DOH? Thanks!

What would the stopover rules on such a RT be?
You need to look at the award chart for Asia to India & South Asia for CX. JL is an Asia to Asia award. Neither CX or JL fly directly to AMD. You could fly to BOM on CX for 60K return in J or DEL from TYO on JL for 50K return.

The only stopovers would be HKG for CX or TYO for JL. For instance, you could fly JL HKG-TYO/stop/TYO DEL or SIN-TYO/stop/TYO-DEL. For CX TYO-HKG/stop/HKG-BOM or SIN-HKG/stop/HKG-BOM.

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Old Aug 4, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
You need to look at the award chart for Asia to India & South Asia for CX. JL is an Asia to Asia award. Neither CX or JL fly directly to AMD. You could fly to BOM on CX for 60K return in J or DEL from TYO on JL for 50K return.

The only stopovers would be HKG for CX or TYO for JL. For instance, you could fly JL HKG-TYO/stop/TYO DEL or SIN-TYO/stop/TYO-DEL. For CX TYO-HKG/stop/HKG-BOM or SIN-HKG/stop/HKG-BOM.

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Can I do a stopover in TPE? CX flies TPE-NRT as a 5th freedom route.

JAL also flies from other Japanese airports that I could presumably use for stopovers, like KIX?
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Old Aug 4, 2018, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Can I do a stopover in TPE? CX flies TPE-NRT as a 5th freedom route.

JAL also flies from other Japanese airports that I could presumably use for stopovers, like KIX?
Not sure on the Fifth Freedom flight on CX. Only one partner per award so it would have to be CX into TPE.

Looking further, I do see that KIX would be a possible stopover point for Intra Asia on JL but dependent on routing.

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Old Aug 4, 2018, 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by EmailKid
.... Not that I've earned miles for even a domestic flight so far .....
Time to apply for the BofA AS credit card.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
Not sure on the Fifth Freedom flight on CX. Only one partner per award so it would have to be CX into TPE.

Looking further, I do see that KIX would be a possible stopover point for Intra Asia on JL but dependent on routing.

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I'm looking at something like

SIN-BKK-HKG-TPE-ICN (all are operated by CX, stopover in either BKK, HKG or TPE)

GMP-HND-KIX-BKK (all are operated by JAL, stopover in either HND or KIX)
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I'm looking at something like

SIN-BKK-HKG-TPE-ICN (all are operated by CX, stopover in either BKK, HKG or TPE)

GMP-HND-KIX-BKK (all are operated by JAL, stopover in either HND or KIX)
CX no stopovers unless north america is involved

JL stopover allowed in Tokyo on intraasia award. It's the only partner that allows a stopover of any kind on intra regional award ( though none allowed in Japan to Japan)
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 9:39 am
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CX reward question

Using CX reward can I travel from Bali-layover HK-PDX using 35K in PE? I can't use reward to fly on Cathay Dragon, correct?
Thanks!
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by CDKing
CX no stopovers unless north america is involved

JL stopover allowed in Tokyo on intraasia award. It's the only partner that allows a stopover of any kind on intra regional award ( though none allowed in Japan to Japan)
So no stopovers on non-NA awards? Where is that in the rules if you don't mind me asking? What about HU?

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Old Aug 5, 2018, 11:13 am
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My flight did include North America. PDX=Portland. So......Bali-HongKong (2 day layover) -Portland is allowed for 35K PE, correct?

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Old Aug 5, 2018, 12:14 pm
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Is it possible to re assign award miles ( ie to SQ - which is a partner on the class I flew) after the flight. Forgot to change the mileage number at. Checkin - cheers ( I did Ring but office closed)
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
So no stopovers on non-NA awards? Where is that in the rules if you don't mind me asking? What about HU?
It's one of many unpublished rules. It was actually quite shocking when people were posting ability to stopover on JL intra Asia and Missy came on to say that it was special to JL. Each partnership negotiated individually so wierd exceptions show up. Hainan for example is more limited, if you look at the chart they have China to China and no intra Asia chart, so most limited of the Asian partners.
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Old Aug 5, 2018, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
It's one of many unpublished rules. It was actually quite shocking when people were posting ability to stopover on JL intra Asia and Missy came on to say that it was special to JL. Each partnership negotiated individually so wierd exceptions show up. Hainan for example is more limited, if you look at the chart they have China to China and no intra Asia chart, so most limited of the Asian partners.
That sucks to hear though, because I was really looking forward to doing some stopover-flying intra-Asia, hell, even intra-China on HU... damn. I'll have to re-think my entire plan now...

Particularly sad because this: https://blog.alaskaair.com/alaska-ai...nal-stopovers/

really just says no restrictions.

"Alaska has a particularly generous policy for booking stopovers on award tickets. You get one stopover for each one-way ticket, which means two stopovers when you fly round-trip! Many other carriers allow no stopovers at all, or only one stopover on round-trip itineraries."

no asterisk for "only transcontinental travel qualifies" or anything.

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