Singapore Airlines (SQ) Redemptions - Limited Availability
Nov 11, 2018, 8:39 am
#91
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Platinum and 1K are also supposed to get better award availability for select premium awards - although certainly not the level that GS get.
Nov 11, 2018, 8:46 am
#92
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I don't really see why they couldn't do this, even with partners. Create a subset of the actual partner availability that's available to everyone, and keep the entire pot available for MVPG and G75k's.
Nov 11, 2018, 9:40 am
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With respect to SQ, the idea of differentiating availability makes little sense. SQ is not going to make available the seats that people really want (long haul J/F on 380, 350, 77W), and the incremental demand for SQ intra-Asia from MP members is not going to move the needle, given that inventory is already available for booking via UA, AC, AV, etc.
Nov 11, 2018, 10:31 am
#95
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Yes, Plat and 1K (and GS) do get better saver business availability. IN vs. I. The difference is less significant than XN vs. X, but there is a difference.
With respect to SQ, the idea of differentiating availability makes little sense. SQ is not going to make available the seats that people really want (long haul J/F on 380, 350, 77W), and the incremental demand for SQ intra-Asia from MP members is not going to move the needle, given that inventory is already available for booking via UA, AC, AV, etc.
With respect to SQ, the idea of differentiating availability makes little sense. SQ is not going to make available the seats that people really want (long haul J/F on 380, 350, 77W), and the incremental demand for SQ intra-Asia from MP members is not going to move the needle, given that inventory is already available for booking via UA, AC, AV, etc.
I agree, SQ is not going to make longhaul J/F available for AS. They hold them for themselves. They do not release those to other partners even in their own alliance so it would be beyond the stretch of my imagination to think they would release these for only AS. Where there is some hope is that AS may get access to Premium Economy awards (which are not available to Star Alliance partners) so availability might be decent on these.
Nov 11, 2018, 1:41 pm
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Eg, if there is CX availability, and you need to be MVPG to book through Alaska, but anyone can book that same seat through AA... exactly what does that accomplish? It just devalues AS vs AA.
What you were saying would make sense if AS had their own quota of space that no one else has access to. Then they could control access however they wished. But they don't.
What Alaska could do is offer discounts to elites (or, more likely, raise the price for non-elites to be more in line with other programs). That would make AS elite status very valuable.
Nov 11, 2018, 2:27 pm
#97
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Even if they could do this — which seems like a rosy view of AS IT — I don’t see how it would help. 99% of the time, it’s not an AS member who is taking the available award seat, it’s someone in another program. So restricting availability for AS non-elites will have virtually no impact on partner award availability for AS elites.
Jan 27, 2019, 7:01 pm
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I’m really starting to wonder if AS made some deal with SQ where AS miles can’t be redeemed on SQ...
As mentioned above, ample time has passed for them to introduce mileage redemptions onto SQ, and it has not materialized. So I’m wondering if this is a possibility?
As mentioned above, ample time has passed for them to introduce mileage redemptions onto SQ, and it has not materialized. So I’m wondering if this is a possibility?
Jan 27, 2019, 7:20 pm
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James
Jan 27, 2019, 9:49 pm
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Jan 29, 2019, 12:41 am
#103
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Well there has to be some reason AS has not released SQ and Aer Lingus awards.
I wonder if the cap purchasing of 150K miles for non-elites has to do with redemption negotiations? Even if it’s not long hauls it would be nice to have SQ as an option intra-asia.
I wonder if the cap purchasing of 150K miles for non-elites has to do with redemption negotiations? Even if it’s not long hauls it would be nice to have SQ as an option intra-asia.
Jan 29, 2019, 1:09 am
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Honestly, given SQ's reticence in general (at the end of the day, I don't think SQ is going to release much of anything in a premium cabin except *maybe* some odd short-hop stuff), I'd really like to see AS just declare them an "earning only" partner and call it a day. To be fair, I think most of SQ's non-alliance partners might want to consider doing the same...SQ may be a nice "feather in the cap" partner for some of them because of their premium cabin reputation, but IIRC they're even stingy about their in-alliance availability (though I've heard a little bit does come out there now and again,lest *A consider dumping them), let alone with other partners.
Jan 31, 2019, 4:22 pm
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