Oct 11, 2017, 11:39 am
Last edit by: isaacchambers
All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
- 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
- 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
- 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
- All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Retirements Tracking Thread
May 18, 2019, 12:05 am
#481
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I know, it’s strange. I brought that up earlier, but they’re still going to be taking the A321neos in VA registrations. However, if they decide to go through with the A320neos, I guarentee those will have AS/AK registrations. As of right now, we still don’t know whether or not they’re going to keep the order for those jets.
Beyond the 1st alpha-numeric of "N" (which indicates USA registry), the registration number of an aircraft is essentially "free text" (within some guidelines).
I'm sure these 2 aircraft were assigned their "VA" registration number long before delivery. The "VA" in no way indicates order/ownership/lease/operation/etc by neither Alaska nor Virgin America (ditto for AS/AK registrations).
After N930VA, Alaska may (hypothetically) be unable to register the next plane as N931VA because that registration might already be in use. The aircraft with that registration might be a Cessna that hasn't flown in 5 years or an American Airlines 777; there simply is no way to tell from the registration number alone.
May 18, 2019, 10:44 pm
#482
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SFO
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Posts: 337
Next 321 neo to go into the cabon mod shop....N925VA tomorrow via IAD
N529VA will be back tomorrow to SFO after MX (its not reconfigured); I believe all the 319s are now all due for MX....
N529VA will be back tomorrow to SFO after MX (its not reconfigured); I believe all the 319s are now all due for MX....
May 19, 2019, 1:24 am
#484
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 86
Is there a way to tell if the flight I want to purchase is not retrofitted? TPG said it should say "AirBus series" when booking, and I cross referenced with Flightaware which shows mainly A320, 32Q and A321s being flown (are these all not retrofitted yet)?
Flight # is Alaska 1024 in a week. I haven't seen any swaps with a Boeing 737 recently, though I'm debating just cancelling and booking with B6 since I think rolling the dice might not be worth it.
Flight # is Alaska 1024 in a week. I haven't seen any swaps with a Boeing 737 recently, though I'm debating just cancelling and booking with B6 since I think rolling the dice might not be worth it.
May 19, 2019, 1:35 am
#485
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,329
Is there a way to tell if the flight I want to purchase is not retrofitted? TPG said it should say "AirBus series" when booking, and I cross referenced with Flightaware which shows mainly A320, 32Q and A321s being flown (are these all not retrofitted yet)?
Flight # is Alaska 1024 in a week. I haven't seen any swaps with a Boeing 737 recently, though I'm debating just cancelling and booking with B6 since I think rolling the dice might not be worth it.
Flight # is Alaska 1024 in a week. I haven't seen any swaps with a Boeing 737 recently, though I'm debating just cancelling and booking with B6 since I think rolling the dice might not be worth it.
May 19, 2019, 1:41 am
#486
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 86
Is N628VA the tail #? How can I search for which planes flew historically on my route the past few weeks?
May 19, 2019, 1:49 am
#487
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: PDX
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Correct, and I see that it is mentioned in the TPG article you reference. Use a site such as flightaware or flightradar24, and you can see past and future aircraft movements.
May 19, 2019, 1:57 am
#488
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 86
For the past 7 days, both N927VA and N928VA flew this route. Thursday (the day I am flying) however, N921VA flew.
I'm not sure if there is a hard/strict pattern by day of the week, but it looks like I'm rolling the dice by booking this if I expect an original Virgin plane to fly :/
May 19, 2019, 2:08 am
#489
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 86
I will add, for anyone following this, that I called a CS rep for Alaskan a few months ago who wrote a note on my account and told me they would refund me for an aircraft swap (this was for a different flight). Whether this CS rep is misinformed, or this is just good customer service, who knows, & YMMV.
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
May 20, 2019, 7:22 am
#490
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 218
I will add, for anyone following this, that I called a CS rep for Alaskan a few months ago who wrote a note on my account and told me they would refund me for an aircraft swap (this was for a different flight). Whether this CS rep is misinformed, or this is just good customer service, who knows, & YMMV.
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
May 20, 2019, 9:28 am
#491
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,029
I will add, for anyone following this, that I called a CS rep for Alaskan a few months ago who wrote a note on my account and told me they would refund me for an aircraft swap (this was for a different flight). Whether this CS rep is misinformed, or this is just good customer service, who knows, & YMMV.
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
The prices for original Virgin planes first are also higher (this may just be because they are booked faster with less available seats), and Alaska is showing the old seatmap during booking. If they do aircraft swap, it would be pretty lame for those in first since it would amount to both a downgrade in hard product, but also to what is usually a significantly cheaper fare.
Though I'm sure most of you following this thread know this better than me
May 20, 2019, 1:05 pm
#492
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 239
As it stands now, both N929VA (D-AZAX) and N930VA (D-AVXO) are assembled. As far as their delivery dates, who knows. 929 was supposed to be in service at the end of Q1, but that never happened. 930 was for Q2. Maybe we could expect both to enter service at similar times at the end of June?
Mid June for 930, end of June for 929.
The next 319 will be for maintenance. After that it's all interior mods, except for a couple of 20month checks at PAE.There for maintenance.
May 22, 2019, 10:44 am
#494
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 116
??? Nothing strange.
Beyond the 1st alpha-numeric of "N" (which indicates USA registry), the registration number of an aircraft is essentially "free text" (within some guidelines).
I'm sure these 2 aircraft were assigned their "VA" registration number long before delivery. The "VA" in no way indicates order/ownership/lease/operation/etc by neither Alaska nor Virgin America (ditto for AS/AK registrations).
After N930VA, Alaska may (hypothetically) be unable to register the next plane as N931VA because that registration might already be in use. The aircraft with that registration might be a Cessna that hasn't flown in 5 years or an American Airlines 777; there simply is no way to tell from the registration number alone.
Beyond the 1st alpha-numeric of "N" (which indicates USA registry), the registration number of an aircraft is essentially "free text" (within some guidelines).
I'm sure these 2 aircraft were assigned their "VA" registration number long before delivery. The "VA" in no way indicates order/ownership/lease/operation/etc by neither Alaska nor Virgin America (ditto for AS/AK registrations).
After N930VA, Alaska may (hypothetically) be unable to register the next plane as N931VA because that registration might already be in use. The aircraft with that registration might be a Cessna that hasn't flown in 5 years or an American Airlines 777; there simply is no way to tell from the registration number alone.
If Alaska was to follow through with the A320neo though, I’m sure they’d register it under an AS/AK registration.
May 22, 2019, 11:08 am
#495
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SFO
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