Oct 11, 2017, 11:39 am
Last edit by: isaacchambers
All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
- 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
- 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
- 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
- All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Retirements Tracking Thread
Dec 2, 2018, 11:37 am
#197
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 239
N621VA has not left GSO as of this morning. I do not see anything scheduled now. Who knows....but I agree that these cabin mods are a little bit longer on the 320 versus the 737. However, remember this is a complete gut of current seats and IFE. New installation of seats. So I guess the first prototype may take longer. But I’m amazed that N628VA has been out of service for over 2 months....that’s a long time not making money.
Dec 2, 2018, 2:16 pm
#198
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
Alaska Air Group will decide in 2019 if it will continue operating both Airbus and Boeing narrowbodies or shift back to a single-type fleet, says chief operating officer Ben Minicucci.
Minicucci, speaking during a presentation to investors earlier this week, did not elaborate, and the company declines to provide further comment.
Minicucci, speaking during a presentation to investors earlier this week, did not elaborate, and the company declines to provide further comment.
Dec 2, 2018, 2:34 pm
#199
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 223
Whatever scheduled flight I had seen for N621VA is no longer showing.
N840VA is en route SFO-EWR following its return from GSO; I checked the seat map for the EWR-SFO it's scheduled to fly later tonight (AS1195) and it's still showing the standard A320 config. Anyone know why N840VA was at GSO?
N840VA is en route SFO-EWR following its return from GSO; I checked the seat map for the EWR-SFO it's scheduled to fly later tonight (AS1195) and it's still showing the standard A320 config. Anyone know why N840VA was at GSO?
Dec 3, 2018, 9:55 pm
#201
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Programs: AS MVPG75k
Posts: 330
Heads up: Alaska has removed row 16 from Airbus A319 planes with the new numbering (see screenshot). I learned this the hard way.
On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.
I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.
Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy renumbering last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.
The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.
Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.
Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.
If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessary stress during plane swaps. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap (the swap macro placed me in a middle when there was an aisle open). Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if that means one PC row becomes normal Y on the A319s. I’d much rather be in a normal window without premium service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.
For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.
Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.
On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.
I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.
Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy renumbering last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.
The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.
Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.
Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.
If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessary stress during plane swaps. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap (the swap macro placed me in a middle when there was an aisle open). Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if that means one PC row becomes normal Y on the A319s. I’d much rather be in a normal window without premium service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.
For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.
Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.
Last edited by jjmadison; Dec 4, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Dec 3, 2018, 10:11 pm
#202
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
Heads up: Alaska has removed row 16 from Airbus A319 planes in the new config (see screenshot). I learned this the hard way.
On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.
I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.
Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy reconfig last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.
The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.
Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.
Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.
If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessarily stress for elites. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap. Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if it’s not a PC row. I’d much rather be in a normal window without PC service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.
For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.
Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.
On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.
I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.
Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy reconfig last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.
The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.
Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.
Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.
If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessarily stress for elites. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap. Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if it’s not a PC row. I’d much rather be in a normal window without PC service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.
For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.
Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.
Dec 4, 2018, 12:15 pm
#203
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 64
Dec 11, 2018, 7:25 am
#205
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,657
This has always been a common occurrence with United on A319 for A320 swaps so it is something we will have to be careful of when selecting Row 16.
Dec 11, 2018, 7:33 pm
#206
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: US West Coast
Programs: Alaska 100K, Hyatt Gl, Marriott Ti/LTP
Posts: 353
Ouch. AS's seat numbering system has worked pretty well for them over the years--on the 737s, row 6 has always been the Y bulkhead, 16 and 17 have always been the exit rows, and 15 has always been the limited-recline--or non-reclining? I've never actually sat there--row immediately in front. Before the A319s, they hadn't had a mainline plane with only one overwing exit row since the 737-200s. This is going to be big pain during equipment swaps until whenever the 319s are retired.
Dec 27, 2018, 10:53 am
#208
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: DCA
Posts: 170
Last edited by cjude1962; Dec 27, 2018 at 12:12 pm
Dec 27, 2018, 12:25 pm
#209
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK/STS
Programs: Alaska MVPG, Delta PM, AA EXP, Wannabe SkyWest 1K
Posts: 644
Dec 31, 2018, 7:40 am
#210
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: DCA
Posts: 170
628 is scheduled from GSO to VCV for paint today - makes sense to debut the new interior with AS colors:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as9569
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as9569