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All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.

This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.

Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
  • 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
  • 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
  • 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
  • All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured

Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]

Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
N623VA 623 (three if by air) [stored GSO 6/22/20, GEG 3/23/21, SAT 4/14/21 - to Volotea 5/28/21]
N624VA 624 (fred, white & blue) [stored GSO 12/29, AMA 4/117/21, to Allegiant 5/11/21]
N625VA 625 (jefferson airplane) [stored/moved AMA 5/30/21, to Allegiant 6/16/21]
N626VA 626 (unicorn chaser) [moved to GUS, 11/28/2021, to Global X 11/28/2021]
N627VA 627 (runway angel) [moved to GUS, 11/13/2021, to Global X 11/13/2021]
N628VA 628 (entourage air)[transferred to Global X 6/15/2022]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
N630VA 630 (superfly) [transferred to Global X]
N631VA 631 (chic mobile) [transferred to Aero K]
N632VA 632 (youtube air)[transferred to Air Canada, C-FCQD]
N633VA 633 (the tim clark express) [scrapped @ MZJ - 08/23/2022]
N634VA 634 (mach daddy) [scrapped @ MZJ 4/15]
N635VA 635 (my other ride's a spaceship) [transferred to Peluta Air Service PK-PWE - 4/14/2023]
N636VA 636 (airplane 2.0) [transferred to Canada Jetlines - C-GLJH - 7/27/2023]
N637VA 637 (an airplane named desire) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCZF]
N638VA 638 (san francisco pride) [transferred to Peluta Air Service - PK-PWK - 10/23/2023]
N639VA 639 (air drake) [transferred to Global X - 2/16/2024 - N289GX]
N640VA 640 (refresh air) [transferred to Global X, N291GX]
N641VA 641 (dotcomsecrets air) [stored OPF - 01/19/2024]
N642VA 642 (breanna jewel) [stored GSO - 12/16/2023]
N835VA 835 (arnold) [transferred to Pegasus - LY-NVN - 6/28/2023]
N836VA 836 (spruce moose) [transferred to Aero K - HL8385 - 7/13/2023]
N837VA 837 (air vh1) [transferred to Global X - 4/23/2023]
N838VA 838 (dfw one) [transferred to Aero K - HL8386 - 6/26/2023]
N839VA 839 (myles from connemara)[transferred to Vueling - EC-OFV]
N840VA 840 (bytheway) [transferred to to Pelita Air Service, PK-PWJ]
N841VA 841 (#nerdbird) [transferred to myAirline, 9M-DAM]]
N842VA 842 (real steel) [transferred to Tunisair, [color=#000000]TS-ITC]
N843VA 843 (¡VÁmonos!) [stored SAT - 10/05/2023]
N844VA 844 (sol plane) [transferred to Tunisair, TS-ITD]
N845VA 845 (stay hungry, stay foolish) [stored GSO - 8/19/2023]
N846VA 846 (glitter girl) [stored GSO - 2/08/2024]
N847VA 847 (scarlett o'air) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCQX]
N848VA 848 (bellapierre) [stored VCV - 11/28/2022]
N849VA 849 (fly bye baby) [stored GSO - 12/11/2023]
N851VA 851 (Friends Of Arjay Miller) [transferred to Southern Cross International - stored ZAG 9/4/2023]
N852VA 852 (safady voyager) [stored GSO - 11/19/2023]
N853VA 853 (mt. hoodie) [transferred to Air Canada, C-FCYX]
N854VA 854 (stand up flyer) [Fly with Pride special livery] [stored GSO - 4/3/2024]
N855VA 855 (screw it, let's do it) [SF Giants special livery] [stored GSO- 2/15/2024]

Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
N281VA 281 (pineapple express) [ferried to PAE 9/10/21, to MLB 3/16/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N282VA 282 (judy ann) [ferried to PAE 10/1/21, to MLB 12/21/2021 - transferred to Allegiant]
N283VA 283 (chace plane) [ferried to MLB 2/3/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N284VA 284 (rabid badger) [ferried to MLB 3/16/22 - transferred to Allegiant]
N285VA 285 (flights with benefits) [ferried to LCQ 6/29/2022 - transferred to Allegiant]
N286VA 286 (legally high) [ferried to MLB 4/20/22 - transferred to Allegiant]

Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
N921VA 921 (neo kid on the block) [transferred to AA - N950XV]
N922VA 922 (frances) [transferred to AA - N951XV]
N923VA 923 (3-2-1 liftoff) [transferred to AA - N952XV]
N924VA 924 [transferred to AA - N953XV]
N925VA 925 [transferred to AA - N954XV]
N926VA 926 (More to Love special livery) [transferred to AA - N955XV]
N927VA 927 (More to Love special livery) [transferred to AA - N956XV]
N928VA 928 [transferred to AA - N957XV]
N929VA 929 [transferred to AA - N958XV]
N930VA 930 [transferred to AA - N959XV]


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Old May 22, 2019, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by isaac.chambers
Given this whole MAX issue....the odds of them taking the 320neos are getting higher and higher!
Oh absolutely! Only thing is the delivery date is slated for 2020. By then the issue likely would have been resolved.

Personally, it’s weird to see Alaska flying Airbus jets, but it is certainly starting to grow on me. I wouldn’t want to pilot an Airbus, but flying as a passenger in one is absolutely fine. I welcome the change. Time will tell to see what will happen to the rest of the A320 family in AS fleet. My guess is they’re going to keep it because they’re already investing millions of dollars into repainting and refitting the cabins, and it would seem to be money wasted if they did it only to dump the fleet soon.
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Old May 22, 2019, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mastergamindude

The only thing unusual is that VA was Virgin America’s registration. But then again, at the same time, other carriers have this. United has some of Continental’s registrations, I believe. Delta and American both still fly Northwest and US Airways registrations respectively.

If Alaska was to follow through with the A320neo though, I’m sure they’d register it under an AS/AK registration.
Generally, planes that change ownership within the same jurisdiction (N -> N in this case), don't get re-registered. It's a lot of paperwork, money, paint, etc, for nothing but a new license plate. A surprising percentage of the flying public don't even notice the name of the airline painted on the side of the plane, let alone the tail number, let alone the letters at the tail of the tail number. UA doesn't even use the letters.

Like you said, during mergers planes don't tend to be re-registered. But even more than that, they almost never are if the expense can be avoided. Look at Delta's 717 fleet, the vast majority of them were bought from Southwest after Southwest acquired AirTrain. Through all those transactions, the planes still all have "AT" at the end for AirTran.

I think you're right that any A320neos would have *AK number, mainly because those those aircraft still haven't been allocated numbers. N929V and N930VA were both allocated before the merger. For the record, my money is still on AS cancelling those future Airbuses, but you never know. The MAX debacle still isn't over and we won't know how bad the lingering effects of it really are for several years.
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Old May 22, 2019, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by CalanMan

Generally, planes that change ownership within the same jurisdiction (N -> N in this case), don't get re-registered. It's a lot of paperwork, money, paint, etc, for nothing but a new license plate. A surprising percentage of the flying public don't even notice the name of the airline painted on the side of the plane, let alone the tail number, let alone the letters at the tail of the tail number. UA doesn't even use the letters.

Like you said, during mergers planes don't tend to be re-registered. But even more than that, they almost never are if the expense can be avoided. Look at Delta's 717 fleet, the vast majority of them were bought from Southwest after Southwest acquired AirTrain. Through all those transactions, the planes still all have "AT" at the end for AirTran.

I think you're right that any A320neos would have *AK number, mainly because those those aircraft still haven't been allocated numbers. N929V and N930VA were both allocated before the merger. For the record, my money is still on AS cancelling those future Airbuses, but you never know. The MAX debacle still isn't over and we won't know how bad the lingering effects of it really are for several years.
That is true. I personally don’t know what Alaska is going to do with the A320neos. They were initially trying to cancel the remaining A321neo orders back when they began entering service with VX, but decided to take all ten of them. I wish Alaska would give us an official long-term fleet strategy like they said they would.
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Old May 22, 2019, 6:50 pm
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There are still engine issues with the geared turbofans... there's a reason you haven't seen those A321neos used to Hawai'i (even though they battle the winds MUCH better than the 737-900s). I'm not sure if there's still a backlog, but friends at other airlines with Neo and "in the know" (ie - not gate agents, pilots, rampers) say the planes still have some teething issues and can't be flown as 'hard' as ceo A320s.

Over time it will get completely fixed...
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Old May 22, 2019, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by UAPremierExec
There are still engine issues with the geared turbofans... there's a reason you haven't seen those A321neos used to Hawai'i (even though they battle the winds MUCH better than the 737-900s). I'm not sure if there's still a backlog, but friends at other airlines with Neo and "in the know" (ie - not gate agents, pilots, rampers) say the planes still have some teething issues and can't be flown as 'hard' as ceo A320s.

Over time it will get completely fixed...
All of AS's neos have LEAP-1As, not the P&W GTFs. CFM's had some teething problems with them, but not nearly as many as the Pratts have had, and the MAX is just as affected.
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Old May 23, 2019, 8:01 am
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N922VA showing on FlightRadar24 and Google Flights on AS9529, GSO-SFO this afternoon: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n922va
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Old May 23, 2019, 1:26 pm
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I was thinking that 922 was going to return to GSO shortly after takeoff, given that it circled for a bit - must have been troubleshooting a minor issue, but it is indeed heading to SFO now:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N922VA
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Old May 24, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Today is the day! The final Virgin America jet will be no more. Phase one soon to be complete.
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Old May 24, 2019, 1:03 pm
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Also, N623VA is not exiting GSO today.
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Old May 24, 2019, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by mastergamindude
Today is the day! The final Virgin America jet will be no more. Phase one soon to be complete.
how long before all Airbus seats are changed out? PDX-PSP selling seats w/8 FC seats for March 2020. Thought all Airbuses were gonna be switched out by then. thanks!

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Old May 24, 2019, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by bigbirdwithsilverwings
how long before all Airbus seats are changed out? PDX-PSP selling seats w/8 FC seats for March 2020. Thought all Airbuses were gonna be switched out by then. thanks!
High probability of a seat map change. Always easier to add F and PC than take it away.
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Old May 24, 2019, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by bigbirdwithsilverwings
how long before all Airbus seats are changed out? PDX-PSP selling seats w/8 FC seats for March 2020. Thought all Airbuses were gonna be switched out by then. thanks!
Well, they can’t really update all the seat maps because there’s always that chance that something might go wrong and all planes might not be reconfigured by then. If they actually made that prediction and were wrong, VX seat counts are slightly lower than the current new configurations, so people may need to be bumped, and I don’t think Alaska is looking to become the next United Airlines (yes, I know, technically that flight was not overbooked, but it’s the same scenario: too low of a capacity for those booked to fly). Considering the magnitude of that potential error, that would hit headlines really fast. Much easier to wait until it is for sure done, or for sure the plane for that route is reconfigured.

That being said, if things actually do stick to schedule, then near early 2020 all of the cabins should be refitted, or at least a majority of the jets will have the interior. As of right now, PDX occasionally gets some of the reconfigured Airbus jets (most A320s, but RARELY the A321neo) and incredibly rarely we do see the Boeing 737-700 stop here.
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Old May 24, 2019, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by CalanMan
Look at Delta's 717 fleet, the vast majority of them were bought from Southwest after Southwest acquired AirTrain. Through all those transactions, the planes still all have "AT" at the end for AirTran.
Yes, they've got "AT" at the end of their tail numbers.
Even the ~30 of them that came from TWA and had mostly N4xxTW tail numbers, which AirTran had... paid to re-register upon acquisition.
A fact which sort of negates a lot of your post.
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Old May 26, 2019, 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by Legend717
Yes, they've got "AT" at the end of their tail numbers.
Even the ~30 of them that came from TWA and had mostly N4xxTW tail numbers, which AirTran had... paid to re-register upon acquisition.
A fact which sort of negates a lot of your post.
:-D
That’s really interesting. I had no idea! I even went on airfleets.net and looked through the history of several of them, to check my work before making my post, but I must’ve just happened to pick non-TW planes. You’re totally right. N930AT is an example: https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b717-55072.htm

Im not sure it negates my assertions , but it certainly is a good counter example, that I unknowingly handed right to you!

Do you have any idea why AirTran went to the trouble/expense of doing that?
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Old May 26, 2019, 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by CalanMan

That’s really interesting. I had no idea! I even went on airfleets.net and looked through the history of several of them, to check my work before making my post, but I must’ve just happened to pick non-TW planes. You’re totally right. N930AT is an example: https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b717-55072.htm

Im not sure it negates my assertions , but it certainly is a good counter example, that I unknowingly handed right to you!

Do you have any idea why AirTran went to the trouble/expense of doing that?
I'll take an example handed to me any day!
It's personal, for me, because when I was a teen, I had aspirations of growing up to be a TWA 717 pilot.
I did manage to fly, obviously as a passenger, N407TW and N415TW, both of which are now proudly wearing crooked widgets.
And I have no idea why AirTran went to the trouble. Some do, some don't, and some split the difference. America West re-registered USAirways' A330-300s, N670UW became N270AY.
Delta has, historically, not been one to re-register. But I'm sure there are exceptions.
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