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All Airbus operations have now ended with Alaska Airlines.
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
This Wiki will be updated periodically with status of former frames with new owners or sadly scrapped.
Summary of Reconfiguration Project: (see below for specific breakdown by aircraft tail number)
- 319 - None were reconfigured due to pandemic and subsequent fleet withdrawal. All were scrapped / transferred as of June 17, 2022.
- 320 - All but 7 aircraft were reconfigured. [F8W12Y126 -> F12W24Y114], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of January 10, 2023.
- 321neo - All were reconfigured (7 total, 3 delivered in the new interior from Airbus, completed as of January 3, 2020). [F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150], all were withdrawn from the fleet as of September 30 2023,.
- All aircraft were repainted into AS livery being complete on June 2, 2019.
Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
N521VA 521 (let there be flight) [MZJ 09/18/21 - scrapped]
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin) [MZJ 10/28/21 - scrapped, you can purchase planetags of this aircraft]
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure) [MZJ 03/08/2022 - scrapped]
N524VA 524 (dark horse) [MCI 6/9/2022 - scrapped]
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [P08 - 3/17/2022 - scrapped]
N526VA 526 (jane) [P08 - 12/13/2022 - scrapped]
N527VA 527 (tubular belle) [P08 - 06/27/2023 - scrapped]]
N528VA 528 (fog cutter) [ transferred to Braathens Interantional Airways SE-RGC]
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action) [P08 - 10/21/2022 - scrapped]
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer) [MCI 6/17/2022 - scrapped]
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N361VA 361 (jersey girl) [stored GSO - 1/11/2023]
N362VA 362 (spotifly) [stored OAK 7/29, sold to ALC Feb 2021, ferried to PAE 04/29/22, transferred to Allegiant]
N363VA 363 (sky surfer) [stored OAK 8/6, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N364VA 364 (lady boss) [stored GSO 4/28/2022, transferred to Allegiant]
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one) [stored GSO 3/21, sold to ALC Feb 2021, transferred to Allegiant]
N621VA 621 (air colbert) [returned to lessor GSO 11/20 - to Volotea Airlines as EC-NNZ 1/21]
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)[stored GSO 7/8 - Lease return to VCV 3/8/21 - to Allegiant 3/23/21]
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured
Airbus A319 - ALL TRANSFERRED/SCRAPPED
Airbus A320 - [12 - 320s stored/awaiting to be transferred to other operators]
N629VA 629 (midnight ride) [stored AMA, 12/27/2023]
Airbus A320 ETOPS - All Transferred to Allegiant
Airbus A321NEO - All Transferred to American Airlines
Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Retirements Tracking Thread
#496
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 116
Personally, it’s weird to see Alaska flying Airbus jets, but it is certainly starting to grow on me. I wouldn’t want to pilot an Airbus, but flying as a passenger in one is absolutely fine. I welcome the change. Time will tell to see what will happen to the rest of the A320 family in AS fleet. My guess is they’re going to keep it because they’re already investing millions of dollars into repainting and refitting the cabins, and it would seem to be money wasted if they did it only to dump the fleet soon.
#497
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: US West Coast
Programs: Alaska 100K, Hyatt Gl, Marriott Ti/LTP
Posts: 353
The only thing unusual is that VA was Virgin America’s registration. But then again, at the same time, other carriers have this. United has some of Continental’s registrations, I believe. Delta and American both still fly Northwest and US Airways registrations respectively.
If Alaska was to follow through with the A320neo though, I’m sure they’d register it under an AS/AK registration.
Like you said, during mergers planes don't tend to be re-registered. But even more than that, they almost never are if the expense can be avoided. Look at Delta's 717 fleet, the vast majority of them were bought from Southwest after Southwest acquired AirTrain. Through all those transactions, the planes still all have "AT" at the end for AirTran.
I think you're right that any A320neos would have *AK number, mainly because those those aircraft still haven't been allocated numbers. N929V and N930VA were both allocated before the merger. For the record, my money is still on AS cancelling those future Airbuses, but you never know. The MAX debacle still isn't over and we won't know how bad the lingering effects of it really are for several years.
Last edited by CalanMan; May 22, 2019 at 1:16 pm
#498
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 116
Generally, planes that change ownership within the same jurisdiction (N -> N in this case), don't get re-registered. It's a lot of paperwork, money, paint, etc, for nothing but a new license plate. A surprising percentage of the flying public don't even notice the name of the airline painted on the side of the plane, let alone the tail number, let alone the letters at the tail of the tail number. UA doesn't even use the letters.
Like you said, during mergers planes don't tend to be re-registered. But even more than that, they almost never are if the expense can be avoided. Look at Delta's 717 fleet, the vast majority of them were bought from Southwest after Southwest acquired AirTrain. Through all those transactions, the planes still all have "AT" at the end for AirTran.
I think you're right that any A320neos would have *AK number, mainly because those those aircraft still haven't been allocated numbers. N929V and N930VA were both allocated before the merger. For the record, my money is still on AS cancelling those future Airbuses, but you never know. The MAX debacle still isn't over and we won't know how bad the lingering effects of it really are for several years.
#499
Join Date: Sep 2001
Programs: Alaska Tanzanite 100K
Posts: 3,858
There are still engine issues with the geared turbofans... there's a reason you haven't seen those A321neos used to Hawai'i (even though they battle the winds MUCH better than the 737-900s). I'm not sure if there's still a backlog, but friends at other airlines with Neo and "in the know" (ie - not gate agents, pilots, rampers) say the planes still have some teething issues and can't be flown as 'hard' as ceo A320s.
Over time it will get completely fixed...
Over time it will get completely fixed...
#500
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
There are still engine issues with the geared turbofans... there's a reason you haven't seen those A321neos used to Hawai'i (even though they battle the winds MUCH better than the 737-900s). I'm not sure if there's still a backlog, but friends at other airlines with Neo and "in the know" (ie - not gate agents, pilots, rampers) say the planes still have some teething issues and can't be flown as 'hard' as ceo A320s.
Over time it will get completely fixed...
Over time it will get completely fixed...
#501
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Burnsville, MN, USA
Posts: 9
N922VA showing on FlightRadar24 and Google Flights on AS9529, GSO-SFO this afternoon: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n922va
#502
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: DCA
Posts: 170
I was thinking that 922 was going to return to GSO shortly after takeoff, given that it circled for a bit - must have been troubleshooting a minor issue, but it is indeed heading to SFO now:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N922VA
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N922VA
#505
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: portland, oregon
Programs: alaska, united, air france, lufthansa,delta, starwood
Posts: 382
how long before all Airbus seats are changed out? PDX-PSP selling seats w/8 FC seats for March 2020. Thought all Airbuses were gonna be switched out by then. thanks!
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#506
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,329
#507
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 116
That being said, if things actually do stick to schedule, then near early 2020 all of the cabins should be refitted, or at least a majority of the jets will have the interior. As of right now, PDX occasionally gets some of the reconfigured Airbus jets (most A320s, but RARELY the A321neo) and incredibly rarely we do see the Boeing 737-700 stop here.
#508
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: CO - Onepass Gold Elite--> UA - MileagePlus Gold Premier--> Silver --> AS - MileagePlan MVPGOLD!
Posts: 735
Even the ~30 of them that came from TWA and had mostly N4xxTW tail numbers, which AirTran had... paid to re-register upon acquisition.
A fact which sort of negates a lot of your post.
:-D
#509
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: US West Coast
Programs: Alaska 100K, Hyatt Gl, Marriott Ti/LTP
Posts: 353
Im not sure it negates my assertions , but it certainly is a good counter example, that I unknowingly handed right to you!
Do you have any idea why AirTran went to the trouble/expense of doing that?
#510
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: CO - Onepass Gold Elite--> UA - MileagePlus Gold Premier--> Silver --> AS - MileagePlan MVPGOLD!
Posts: 735
That’s really interesting. I had no idea! I even went on airfleets.net and looked through the history of several of them, to check my work before making my post, but I must’ve just happened to pick non-TW planes. You’re totally right. N930AT is an example: https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b717-55072.htm
Im not sure it negates my assertions , but it certainly is a good counter example, that I unknowingly handed right to you!
Do you have any idea why AirTran went to the trouble/expense of doing that?
It's personal, for me, because when I was a teen, I had aspirations of growing up to be a TWA 717 pilot.
I did manage to fly, obviously as a passenger, N407TW and N415TW, both of which are now proudly wearing crooked widgets.
And I have no idea why AirTran went to the trouble. Some do, some don't, and some split the difference. America West re-registered USAirways' A330-300s, N670UW became N270AY.
Delta has, historically, not been one to re-register. But I'm sure there are exceptions.