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Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Repainting Tracking Thread

Airbus A319/20/21N Reconfiguration/Repainting Tracking Thread

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This thread will track the Airbus repainting and reconfiguration of the pmVX Airbus fleet.

As of June 2, 2019 - All pmVX aircraft have been repainted into Alaska livery.

The table below tracks the interior reconfiguration progress of the Airbus fleet.

New Interiors: https://blog.alaskaair.com/alaska-ai...abin-interior/ **Estimated completion of Airbus retrofits is the end of July 2020**

Additional AS fleet information: https://alaskafleetstatus.weebly.com [Includes all AS fleet information; this thread is just for the Airbus fleet, B737/E75/Q400 information is listed on this site]

New Configurations
A319 - F8W12Y99 -> F12W24Y87
A320 - F8W12Y126 [F8W18Y120 - interim VX Premium class config] -> F12W24Y114
A21N - F8W18Y159 -> F16W24Y150

Legend:
Bold indicates aircraft has been reconfigured

Airbus A319 0/10 Reconfigured
N521VA 521 (let there be flight)
N522VA 522 (the 1-year old virgin)
N523VA 523 (contents may be under pressure)
N524VA 524 (dark horse)
N525VA 525 (virgin & tonic) [GSO 8/14]
N526VA 526 (jane)
N527VA 527 (tubular belle)
N528VA 528 (fog cutter)
N529VA 529 (moodlights, camera, action)
N530VA 530 (gogo dancer)

Airbus A320 16/47 Reconfigured
N361VA 361 (jersey girl)
N362VA 362 (spotifly)
N363VA 363 (sky surfer)
N364VA 364 (lady boss)
N365VA 365 (airbnb force one)
N621VA 621 (air colbert)
N622VA 622 (california dreaming)
N623VA 623 (three if by air)
N624VA 624 (fred, white & blue)
N625VA 625 (jefferson airplane)
N626VA 626 (unicorn chaser)
N627VA 627 (runway angel)
N628VA 628 (entourage air)
N629VA 629 (midnight ride)
N630VA 630 (superfly)
N631VA 631 (chic mobile)
N632VA 632 (youtube air)
N633VA 633 (the tim clark express)
N634VA 634 (mach daddy)
N635VA 635 (my other ride's a spaceship)
N636VA 636 (airplane 2.0)
N637VA 637 (an airplane named desire) [GSO 8/27 for cabin mods]
N638VA 638 (san francisco pride)
N639VA 639 (air drake)
N640VA 640 (refresh air)
N641VA 641 (dotcomsecrets air)
N642VA 642 (breanna jewel)
N835VA 835 (arnold)
N836VA 836 (spruce moose)
N837VA 837 (air vh1)
N838VA 838 (dfw one)
N839VA 839 (myles from connemara)
N840VA 840 (bytheway)
N841VA 841 (#nerdbird)
N842VA 842 (real steel)
N843VA 843 (ˇVÁmonos!)
N844VA 844 (sol plane)
N845VA 845 (stay hungry, stay foolish)
N846VA 846 (glitter girl)
N847VA 847 (scarlett o'air) [GSO 9/8]
N848VA 848 (bellapierre)
N849VA 849 (fly bye baby) [GSO 9/3 for cabin mods]
N851VA 851 (Friends Of Arjay Miller)
N852VA 852 (safady voyager)
N853VA 853 (mt. hoodie)
N854VA 854 (stand up flyer)
N855VA 855 (screw it, let's do it) [GSO 9/10 for cabin mods]

Airbus A320 ETOPS 0/6 Reconfigured
N281VA 281 (pineapple express)
N282VA 282 (judy ann)
N283VA 283 (chace plane)
N284VA 284 (rabid badger)
N285VA 285 (flights with benefits)
N286VA 286 (legally high)

Airbus A321NEO 5/9 Reconfigured
N921VA 921 (neo kid on the block)
N922VA 922 (frances)
N923VA 923 (3-2-1 liftoff) [GSO 8/29 for cabin mods]
N924VA 924
N925VA 925
N926VA 926 (More to Love special livery)
N927VA 927 (More to Love special livery)
N928VA 928
N929VA 929
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Old Dec 2, 18, 9:06 am
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i dont think nerdbird is going in today....

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Old Dec 2, 18, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by isaac.chambers View Post
N621VA has not left GSO as of this morning. I do not see anything scheduled now. Who knows....but I agree that these cabin mods are a little bit longer on the 320 versus the 737. However, remember this is a complete gut of current seats and IFE. New installation of seats. So I guess the first prototype may take longer. But I’m amazed that N628VA has been out of service for over 2 months....that’s a long time not making money.
N621VA is not in GSO for the interior mod. N628VA should have been back in service a few weeks ago but has had delays. Look for it to, possibly, maybe, return to service in a couple of weeks.
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Old Dec 2, 18, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Manoa Chris View Post
Any chance Alaska is considering something more drastic - like ditching the Airbii altogether?
Sounds like that decision hasn't been made yet. Saw this a few days ago:

Alaska Air Group will decide in 2019 if it will continue operating both Airbus and Boeing narrowbodies or shift back to a single-type fleet, says chief operating officer Ben Minicucci.

Minicucci, speaking during a presentation to investors earlier this week, did not elaborate, and the company declines to provide further comment.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-aircr-454025/
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Old Dec 2, 18, 2:34 pm
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Whatever scheduled flight I had seen for N621VA is no longer showing.

N840VA is en route SFO-EWR following its return from GSO; I checked the seat map for the EWR-SFO it's scheduled to fly later tonight (AS1195) and it's still showing the standard A320 config. Anyone know why N840VA was at GSO?
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Old Dec 2, 18, 3:34 pm
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N621VA is now scheduled to leave GSO tomorrow.

N840VA was there for a C-check.

N628VA is the only Airbus currently undergoing the interior mod.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 9:55 pm
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Heads up: Alaska has removed row 16 from Airbus A319 planes with the new numbering (see screenshot). I learned this the hard way.

On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.

I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.

Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy renumbering last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.

The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.

Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.

Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.

If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessary stress during plane swaps. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap (the swap macro placed me in a middle when there was an aisle open). Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if that means one PC row becomes normal Y on the A319s. I’d much rather be in a normal window without premium service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.

For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.

Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.


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Old Dec 3, 18, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by jjmadison View Post
Heads up: Alaska has removed row 16 from Airbus A319 planes in the new config (see screenshot). I learned this the hard way.

On the day of my flight, I found I had been moved from a PC window to a middle seat in the back of the plane. No alert of seat change was sent.

I called CS and they said this is the first they’ve seen of this problem. After 15 min to check with their supervisor, they informed me that row 16 has been removed from **some** AS planes and that unfortunately there was nothing they could do.

Then it got messier…. the same problem that affected FT flyers during the screwy reconfig last month occurred here—the app ticket would not show a seat. At the airport, the digital machines errored when trying to print a ticket, and the Elite agent could not print a ticket with a seat. She eventually printed a blank ticket and handwrote my seat number.

The ticket problems also affected the upgrade waitlist. There were 7F open that morning, and I was #4 on the list. When I got to the curbside agent, there were 2F open and I was told I was “top of the upgrade list”. When I got to the gate agent 10 min later, they said “sorry, First is full”.

Thanks to the FT community here, I knew how to handle that. The junior agent said there was nothing she could do, so I politely explained to the senior gate agent that I was certain there was a mistake and asked them to look at who was upgraded. Sure enough, they saw two MVPs had received upgrades and my MVPG status was skipped over by the upgrader. The senior agent moved one MVP out of First and gave me the seat I was supposed to receive.

Afterwards, we discussed the debacle I’d experienced. The gate agent explained that AS has chosen to have no row 16 on A319 flights. In my case, there had been a swap from an A320 to an A319. That meant all six of us in row 16 were placed in the far back in middle seats. The agent confirmed that the AS software does not handle seat swaps properly and when tickets get stuck in limbo, it means the upgrade processor breaks as well.

If anyone from Alaska is listening, having no row 16 causes unnecessarily stress for elites. At the very least, there should be an attempt to accommodate elites at the time of the aircraft swap. Even better would be keeping row 16 on all planes, even if it’s not a PC row. I’d much rather be in a normal window without PC service than placed in a middle seat in the back of the plane.

For FT flyers on Airbus planes: I recommend avoiding row 16. On these transcon Airbus routes, I find A319’s are swapped in 10-20% of the time.

Note: For those interested in the flight details, this was Flight AS1126 SFO-BWI on Dec 2, 2018.
Ouch. AS's seat numbering system has worked pretty well for them over the years--on the 737s, row 6 has always been the Y bulkhead, 16 and 17 have always been the exit rows, and 15 has always been the limited-recline--or non-reclining? I've never actually sat there--row immediately in front. Before the A319s, they hadn't had a mainline plane with only one overwing exit row since the 737-200s. This is going to be big pain during equipment swaps until whenever the 319s are retired.
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Old Dec 4, 18, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by jinglish View Post
Before the A319s, they hadn't had a mainline plane with only one overwing exit row since the 737-200s. This is going to be big pain during equipment swaps until whenever the 319s are retired.
What about 737-700???
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Old Dec 4, 18, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by aznichiro115 View Post
What about 737-700???
No A or F seats, but it's not the entire loss of row 16.
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Old Dec 11, 18, 7:25 am
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This has always been a common occurrence with United on A319 for A320 swaps so it is something we will have to be careful of when selecting Row 16.
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Old Dec 11, 18, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jinglish View Post
Ouch. AS's seat numbering system has worked pretty well for them over the years--on the 737s, row 6 has always been the Y bulkhead, 16 and 17 have always been the exit rows, and 15 has always been the limited-recline--or non-reclining? I've never actually sat there--row immediately in front. Before the A319s, they hadn't had a mainline plane with only one overwing exit row since the 737-200s. This is going to be big pain during equipment swaps until whenever the 319s are retired.
Piggy-backing off of what @dmodemd said, though this might be a new issue for AS, isn't this something that VX has had to deal with since delivery of their first A319? The standardized numbering system is a good idea, generally, but no matter how good or bad the seat map system or the software (clearly, Alaska's is lacking here), the challenges of swapping from an aircraft with more premium/extra seats to fewer are always going to fundamentally the same. Similar to when a 739 with a full F cabin is swapped with a 738. The folks in row 4 have to go somewhere when the new plane doesn't have a row 4.
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Old Dec 11, 18, 7:44 pm
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If it's any consolation, there are only 10 A319s versus 53 A320s, so just purely as a function of probability, these swaps shouldn't occur too often.
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Old Dec 27, 18, 10:53 am
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628VA is on a test hop out of GSO:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as9526

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Old Dec 27, 18, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing View Post
Not my photos and not airbus but this is what is going in.



seats look good, but sad to see the missing triangles are gone

they should put them on ebay, like PDX did with its old carpet pattern when it got replaced
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Old Dec 31, 18, 7:40 am
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628 is scheduled from GSO to VCV for paint today - makes sense to debut the new interior with AS colors:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as9569
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