[Speculation] Who should be the next AS partner?
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[Speculation] Who should be the next AS partner?
I think EVA Air should be Alaska next partner. Air Canada (alternatively Westjet) would be another choice.
JetBlue would help with AA nearly dropping out in 2018 but that is not going to happen. Domestically, it's not going to be DL, AA, or UA. WN would also be alien though helpful.
Without AA or DL, it may be necessary to abandon AS in 2018.
JetBlue would help with AA nearly dropping out in 2018 but that is not going to happen. Domestically, it's not going to be DL, AA, or UA. WN would also be alien though helpful.
Without AA or DL, it may be necessary to abandon AS in 2018.
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Westjet could be in the realm of theoretical possibility, given that AS doesn't fly anywhere in Canada east of YEG, but why would BR or AC want/need to partner with AS? The latter seems to be getting along with UA just fine, so I doubt they're dying for another US airline for connections; the former seems to be filling two daily 777s SEA-TPE just fine without any feed on the SEA end, and they have UA and AC at their other west coast destinations. "A few elites want to earn and redeem on more airlines" isn't enough of a reason for AS to pursue a partnership, and AS already has plenty of earning and burning options in Asia between JL, CX, HU, and now SQ (and EK, I guess, if you feel like flying twice as far). Hell, TPE and HKG are only, what, an hour's flight apart? All AS flyers get is earning on US-TPE directs and access to a bit more award space, while possibly pissing off CX, the partner with the best values on premium cabin awards.
I agree, though, that the loss of DL and near-loss of AA hurts a lot: it's part of why I likely won't be able to maintain MVP after next year despite still planning to fly 50k+ annually. But it's Europe, not Asia, that's their international partnership weak zone, especially in terms of what's available from SEA and PDX. I actually like FI and plan to keep flying them when convenient, but 25% earnings on deep-discount Y won't get me very far, and there are a lot of destinations that they and DE just don't serve. And BA's... BA.
I agree, though, that the loss of DL and near-loss of AA hurts a lot: it's part of why I likely won't be able to maintain MVP after next year despite still planning to fly 50k+ annually. But it's Europe, not Asia, that's their international partnership weak zone, especially in terms of what's available from SEA and PDX. I actually like FI and plan to keep flying them when convenient, but 25% earnings on deep-discount Y won't get me very far, and there are a lot of destinations that they and DE just don't serve. And BA's... BA.
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Without a domestic partner for AS, another niche international partnership is meaningless to me. I would like to see a pooling / reciprocal-credit arrangement with TrueBlue, but I have no illusions about the odds.
I'm not going to reattain MP status for 2018 and the wrapup of the AA arrangement means this is the end of the line for me and AS. MP is still a good program as of now, but I assume it will degenerate over the next few years like all the others.
I'm not going to reattain MP status for 2018 and the wrapup of the AA arrangement means this is the end of the line for me and AS. MP is still a good program as of now, but I assume it will degenerate over the next few years like all the others.
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The only other VX partners out there besides SQ are:
VA - already has extensive agreement with DL
HA - Too much overlap, and beyond HI is largely covered by other partners.
EK - Already an AS partner
Even though it won't bring much, I'd like to see them staple on Thomas Cook UK.
VA - already has extensive agreement with DL
HA - Too much overlap, and beyond HI is largely covered by other partners.
EK - Already an AS partner
Even though it won't bring much, I'd like to see them staple on Thomas Cook UK.
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The only other VX partners out there besides SQ are:
VA - already has extensive agreement with DL
HA - Too much overlap, and beyond HI is largely covered by other partners.
EK - Already an AS partner
Even though it won't bring much, I'd like to see them staple on Thomas Cook UK.
VA - already has extensive agreement with DL
HA - Too much overlap, and beyond HI is largely covered by other partners.
EK - Already an AS partner
Even though it won't bring much, I'd like to see them staple on Thomas Cook UK.
All three of those are ST, but MU has a variety of partners outside ST as well. Thus it might be the most likely of the three to become a partner (but I wouldn't hold my breath).
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I would love if HA became a partner so I could choose solely by price rather than price + mileage earning (we fly SEA-OGG every year or so), but I agree that it's probably never going to be a partner with Alaska. Way too much overlap.
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Agree weak spot is Europe, but they did recently gain Condor. That may be the kind of partner (along with IcelandAir) they want (or are able) to get without joining a major alliance. They already have BA/KL/AF, which may be enough for the major airlines for them. Air Europa anyone?
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Agree weak spot is Europe, but they did recently gain Condor. That may be the kind of partner (along with IcelandAir) they want (or are able) to get without joining a major alliance. They already have BA/KL/AF, which may be enough for the major airlines for them. Air Europa anyone?