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Alaska + Singapore Airlines (SQ) Partnership - Earning, Redeeming and Questions

Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:16 pm
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Alaska Airlines (AS) partnership with Singapore Airlines (SQ)

Earning

Beginning September 27, 2017.
For earning rates See Partner Page

Eligible flight numbers (No Silkair)

00010999

Burning:

Award Charts:
(see note below for definition of "Continental USA", "SE Asia" and "South Pacific" )
SE Asia-SE Asia: 17,500 Y, 25,000 J 35,000 F
North Asia-SE Asia: 22,500 Y 60,000 J, 75,000 F
SE Asia-Middle East/India 25,000 Y 65,000 J 85,000 F
SE Asia-South Pacific 30,000 Y 65,000 J 90,000 F
SE Asia-Europe 42,500 Y 110,00 J 160,000 F
North Asia-Europe 65,000 Y 175,000 J 240,000 F
Middle East-Europe 60,000 Y, 160,000 J 210,000 F
Continental USA-North Asia: 40,000 Y 80,000 J 110,000 F
Continental USA-SE Asia/India: 47,500 Y 100,000 J 130,000 F
Continental USA-South Pacific 70,000 Y 145,000 J 190,000 F

Note: Chart only allows contiguous US and Alaska as "USA", however, AS connecting flights to Hawaii/Canada/Mexico are allowed. No chart for USA-Europe (though in theory you could redeem SIN-USA or USA-SIN routing on SQ onestops involving Europe and get off the plane in FRA/MAN, pretty high price in miles though). Stopover in SIN not allowed on regional awards (Intra-Asia,including South Pacific) not touching US.
"North Asia" includes China (PEK/PVG) as per latest update by AS. South Pacific is Australia/New Zealand
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Alaska + Singapore Airlines (SQ) Partnership - Earning, Redeeming and Questions

Old Sep 27, 2017, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Calculon
No, there *are* redemptions. Just requires two awards. Zone 4 to Zone 1 (12k), then Zone 1 to Zone 5 (another 12k).
True just seems odd that they don't offer it as an option for at 24k in the award chart.

Originally Posted by solewalker
*cough* Or... Zone 4 to Zone 3 (7.5k) then Zone 3 to Zone 5 (12.5k).
True but not helpful for most of those destinations (including RDU which is what I care about) since there are no AS Group flights to Zone 3 available.
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by solewalker
The chart of Krisflyer miles required for redemptions on Alaska is out. It costs less to use KF miles to redeem a West Coast-Hawaii flight than using AS miles (11.5 - 12.5k miles):

http://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/pd...s_AwdChart.pdf
I am enjoying the Zone 3 (Midwest) to Zone 4 (Mexico) at 7.5k.
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Exiled in Express
I am enjoying the Zone 3 (Midwest) to Zone 4 (Mexico) at 7.5k.
So, with all those transfer partners (UR/SPG/AMEX), I sense there's going to be a bit of arbitrage available...
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Exiled in Express
I am enjoying the Zone 3 (Midwest) to Zone 4 (Mexico) at 7.5k.
Good catch! I didn't even notice that.
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Exiled in Express
I am enjoying the Zone 3 (Midwest) to Zone 4 (Mexico) at 7.5k.
I am not so sure - the award chart may be based on non-stop redemption

Transfers and stopovers are not permitted
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Old Sep 28, 2017, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Noted this in the SQ forum but weirdly they've completely left out East Coast to Hawaii/Alaska as an option which seems like a strange omission.

It means no SQ redemptions on AS to Hawaii/Alaska for the following routes:

RDU/CHS/IAD/BWI/DCA/JFK/EWR/DTW/PHL/MCO/TPA/ATL (might be missing a couple more) - SEA / SFO / LAX - Hawaii/Alaska
That is because:

"Transfers and stopovers are not permitted."
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Old Sep 28, 2017, 10:04 am
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So for now VX flights are not a part of this right?
(Untill full integration in 2018 ish)
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by azepine00
So for now VX flights are not a part of this right?
(Untill full integration in 2018 ish)

correct this is strictly AS metal
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Mauibaby2008
correct this is strictly AS metal
Does that extend to earning miles on SQ? I have a VX TCON leg with AS flight number in R class. VX (R) earns me nothing on SQ (or AS for that matter), but AS (R) earns full miles on SQ ...

Am I just losing out on 2300 miles or so here?
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by Polytonic
Does that extend to earning miles on SQ? I have a VX TCON leg with AS flight number in R class. VX (R) earns me nothing on SQ (or AS for that matter), but AS (R) earns full miles on SQ ...

Am I just losing out on 2300 miles or so here?
You'd probably want to check the SQ forum but I would imagine KrisFlyer miles are based on the operating carrier.

VX R does earn full amount on AS, btw.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alask...ka-credit.html
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 10:13 pm
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AS should start offering a direct SEA to SIN flight using one of the new 787 or A350 planes.
There would probably be enough pax to make it worthwhile and SQ can provide codeshare to other parts of Asia.
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
AS should start offering a direct SEA to SIN flight using one of the new 787 or A350 planes.
There would probably be enough pax to make it worthwhile and SQ can provide codeshare to other parts of Asia.
This should be ANC-SIN.

And AS would of course choose the 787... "If it ain't Boeing"
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
You'd probably want to check the SQ forum but I would imagine KrisFlyer miles are based on the operating carrier.

VX R does earn full amount on AS, btw.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alask...ka-credit.html
Virgin doesn't technically have an R class (from that thread). I'm guessing it'll credit as Alaska R (or whatever R maps to on VX?). Will find out in a few months I suppose.
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
AS should start offering a direct SEA to SIN flight using one of the new 787 or A350 planes.
There would probably be enough pax to make it worthwhile and SQ can provide codeshare to other parts of Asia.
I love it. Because if any airline should fly an ultra long haul route out of a secondary USA market when historically much larger markets have failed (LAX/NYC-BKK/SIN), it should totally be an airline with zero long haul experience that would totally have to staff up and add a new equipment type for it. Because there is no history of airlines making huge mistakes like that.

I'm sure the vast market of people wanting to fly BOI-SIN will make it work...

Originally Posted by beckoa
This should be ANC-SIN.

And AS would of course choose the 787... "If it ain't Boeing"
I am thinking ANC/SEA/PDX/FAI/SAN/SLC/FCA/HNL-SIN to maximize geographic coverage. With A380s doing fifth freedom routes to NRT/KIX/PEK/YEG/MEX/LIR...
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Old Oct 1, 2017, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Noted this in the SQ forum but weirdly they've completely left out East Coast to Hawaii/Alaska as an option which seems like a strange omission.

It means no SQ redemptions on AS to Hawaii/Alaska for the following routes:

RDU/CHS/IAD/BWI/DCA/JFK/EWR/DTW/PHL/MCO/TPA/ATL (might be missing a couple more) - SEA / SFO / LAX - Hawaii/Alaska
Another odd (if technically not yet relevant) omission? FLL-JFK, which would be Zone 4-Zone 4. I will say, the amount of hair-splitting in there over 500-1000 miles between zones amuses me.
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