Changes to 7H (Ravn Alaska) partnership?
Jul 12, 2017, 7:55 pm
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Jul 12, 2017, 10:59 pm
#33
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AS miles could be earned on 7H to ADQ as long as I can remember.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:07 pm
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I wonder if it makes economic sense for AS to dabble in the ENA and HOM's of AK. Funny enough, I was in a meeting in Homer last week about some airport ops and it seems that the community would welcome TSA to come down and enable easier connections in ANC.
The ENA terminal has had security previously (long ago), it could be done again.
I would bet that the partnership with 7H will end sooner rather than later - their ops are completely erratic and not the same one day to the next, as has been mentioned before. About six months ago I had an interesting conversation with an FA that lives on the Kenai Peninsula, and she had nothing good to say about 7H and will not commute with them - so maybe that attitude is shared at AS corporate?
I refuse to fly with them as well, so don't really have a personal stake in a termination of the partnership.
The ENA terminal has had security previously (long ago), it could be done again.
I would bet that the partnership with 7H will end sooner rather than later - their ops are completely erratic and not the same one day to the next, as has been mentioned before. About six months ago I had an interesting conversation with an FA that lives on the Kenai Peninsula, and she had nothing good to say about 7H and will not commute with them - so maybe that attitude is shared at AS corporate?
I refuse to fly with them as well, so don't really have a personal stake in a termination of the partnership.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:12 pm
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I wonder if it makes economic sense for AS to dabble in the ENA and HOM's of AK. Funny enough, I was in a meeting in Homer last week about some airport ops and it seems that the community would welcome TSA to come down and enable easier connections in ANC.
The ENA terminal has had security previously (long ago), it could be done again.
I would bet that the partnership with 7H will end sooner rather than later - their ops are completely erratic and not the same one day to the next, as has been mentioned before. About six months ago I had an interesting conversation with an FA that lives on the Kenai Peninsula, and she had nothing good to say about 7H and will not commute with them - so maybe that attitude is shared at AS corporate?
I refuse to fly with them as well, so don't really have a personal stake in a termination of the partnership.
The ENA terminal has had security previously (long ago), it could be done again.
I would bet that the partnership with 7H will end sooner rather than later - their ops are completely erratic and not the same one day to the next, as has been mentioned before. About six months ago I had an interesting conversation with an FA that lives on the Kenai Peninsula, and she had nothing good to say about 7H and will not commute with them - so maybe that attitude is shared at AS corporate?
I refuse to fly with them as well, so don't really have a personal stake in a termination of the partnership.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:32 pm
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I've earned AS miles flying 7H on FAI-ANC and ANC-ADQ as recently as this year. There was a period of time when AS wouldn't award miles on Ravn's ANC-FAI and ANC-BET but it went away a while ago. They've been much more cooperative on those routes (until now).
AS miles could be earned on 7H to ADQ as long as I can remember.
AS miles could be earned on 7H to ADQ as long as I can remember.
Jul 13, 2017, 4:38 pm
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I don't know, seems pretty straight forward to me, get 100% miles on any fare anywhere Ravn flies except for:
And do not get any elite qualifying miles at all.
No mileage may be earned on flights from Anchorage to Barrow, Dillingham or Prudhoe Bay. No mileage may be earned between Fairbanks and Barrow, Kotzebue, Nome or Prudhoe Bay, or between Barrow and Prudhoe Bay.
To qualify, flights must be in the ranges of eligible flight numbers listed below and must be marketed and operated by Ravn Alaska.
Ravn Alaska
Eligible flight numbers
0001–0999
7000–7999
To ensure flight credit, the two-letter airline code (7H) must precede the flight number (for example, 7H XXXXX) on your ticket receipt or boarding pass.
To qualify, flights must be in the ranges of eligible flight numbers listed below and must be marketed and operated by Ravn Alaska.
Ravn Alaska
Eligible flight numbers
0001–0999
7000–7999
To ensure flight credit, the two-letter airline code (7H) must precede the flight number (for example, 7H XXXXX) on your ticket receipt or boarding pass.
Jul 13, 2017, 10:05 pm
#38
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Are you sure about that? Penair took seats out of their new Saabs so they are under the set count to require TSA at DUT. They did not want the expense of flying TSA into DUT on every flight and run the risk of putting them in hotels due to weather.
Jul 13, 2017, 11:26 pm
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Adak might be different since service is only twice weekly, not multiple dailies like DUT.
Jul 14, 2017, 1:39 am
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Bob W,
the TSA has some carve-outs for airlines operating in Alaska in a non-sterile environment. KS had to yank out seats for performance reasons in DUT; but its always easy for them to publicly blame the TSA. It has to do with the super short runway and the fact the Saab 2000 baggage pit is about the same size as a Saab 340 - so you have 16 more seats but the same baggage space. AND no overhead bins for the smaller carry-ons.
The airline could conduct its own screenings of passengers for airplanes larger than 50 seats - you will see this a lot with charters & what not at FBOs. Alaska and Hawaii both are different animals, so the rules don't apply in the same manner.
should AS/QX operate into ENA on a regular basis, they would probably just staff TDY or regular TSA agents there. TSA also flies in TSO's into GST daily for the single 737-400 to Juneau.
the TSA has some carve-outs for airlines operating in Alaska in a non-sterile environment. KS had to yank out seats for performance reasons in DUT; but its always easy for them to publicly blame the TSA. It has to do with the super short runway and the fact the Saab 2000 baggage pit is about the same size as a Saab 340 - so you have 16 more seats but the same baggage space. AND no overhead bins for the smaller carry-ons.
The airline could conduct its own screenings of passengers for airplanes larger than 50 seats - you will see this a lot with charters & what not at FBOs. Alaska and Hawaii both are different animals, so the rules don't apply in the same manner.
should AS/QX operate into ENA on a regular basis, they would probably just staff TDY or regular TSA agents there. TSA also flies in TSO's into GST daily for the single 737-400 to Juneau.
Sep 22, 2017, 5:15 pm
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ANC-ADQ Ravn flights not showing on AS
Trying to book flights ANC-ADQ return for early November. The only flights showing on AS are the two daily AS jet flights. The Ravn prop flights are no longer bookable on AS. Ravn has multiple flight each day that I could book on AS until recently. Anyone know what is going on?
Sep 22, 2017, 5:38 pm
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Sep 22, 2017, 5:47 pm
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