WebTraveler

You are flat out wrong. You can still access the data (its now yesterday's data), but the count is exactly what I said it was.....

The real world experience is that there's already been service reductions AND the existing service is not 100% likely to happen. Being routed through Seattle at the last minute is not what I call fun, and its ridiculous of Alaska to take its eye of the ball AND expand routes from SFO at the same time.

Today - so far - one flight from PDX is cancelled - from Boise - and its because the plane did not run yesterday. We'll see as the day goes on what this does.

Facts do matter.

mbluecpa

Yesterday PDX showed the following cancelled and not replaced by identically-timed 9000-series flights:

Departures:
129p SEA
215p SEA
(A mainline flight went at 145p, so might have been a pre-planned replacement for these)
525p ONT
534p SMF
1000p SEA

Arrivals:
547a SEA
1049a SEA
1200p Santa Rosa
1240p SEA
925p SMF
1050p ONT

My real world experience is that PDX-SEA has become unreliable, particularly for day trips, and I'm booking that route on Delta until things appear more straightened out at AS.

WebTraveler

Yep, 11 flights, which is exactly what said above to Asquared1, who calls me a liar. I didn't care to post the details, but you did, and that's nice.

Asquared1

(Comments above in red) This is why I said real world is more true than counting and making assumptions. We can each draw our own interpretations, but it's difficult to know what actually went down on customer side.

Also, the discussion has been about pilot shortage and how AS was handling the modified schedule. The SMF and ONT cancellations seem to involve one crew/plane each. Were these crew shortage issues or mechanical ones (or something else)?

mbluecpa

Agreed, and unlikely we'll know the disposition of affected passengers on those cancelled/replaced flights unless some are hanging around here. My real life experience this summer (warning: n=3) was that upon cancellation, I was rebooked on flights 2 or more hours later (in one case, with a replacement section for my cancelled flight on the schedule) and attempts to waitlist for earlier flights were either handled incorrectly or denied.

Replacement flights are theoretically an effective solution, but I think we can all agree that at a minimum the non-mainline schedule is currently disrupted. And my experience is that AS is not handing that disruption well.

Asquared1

This summer was definitely handled poorly. Been trying to figure out if that's still the case or if they have a much better handle on it now with schedule adjustments. Seems like they are moving flights back to QX from OO and cancels are usually OO, not QX. Not sure if that's by design to reclaim business for QX or if OO is having issues now.

jrl767

according to the email I got an hour or so ago from QX CEO David Campbell, "... our operations have stabilized and we're on track to fly the published schedule."

screenshot of the entire email

Asquared1

I guess that settles that , but seriously... it seem like QX has stabilized, but now OO is having issues (albeit on a smaller scale).

jrl767

I have an OO flight this evening (SJC-SAN, continuing on AS to BWI); neither of my two sources for tracking the jet — FlightAware and FlightRadar24 — show anything wrt the inbound flight ... on the desktop version of FR24, the same tail number that the app shows assigned to my flight is listed as operating two completely different routings over the course of the day, neither of which put it at SJC at the right time

Asquared1

The last two days the inbound for 3408 @ 7:59p was 3407 SAN-SJC. Gate assignment (#27) at SJC on AS flight status for both flights matches for today and flight is showing on time.

UAPremierExec

FYI:

I own a travel agency in Juneau and we use Sabre. I'm more than happy to look up the FLIFO (Flight Information) in Sabre for flights that get delayed or cancelled and can see the delay code/reason for delay or cancel. Just please PM me the flight and date (should be only yesterday, today, or tomorrow).

jackal

For those who have it, ExpertFlyer will show the same thing under the "View Additional Comments" section:

Calculon

I can tell you my most recent experience, which was Portland to Seattle two days ago. While on a connecting flight from Los Angeles to Portland, my Q400 flight was replaced with an E75 in the 9000 range, and I got a surprise upgrade to first class.

UAPremierExec

Just a couple of examples:

2B6895«
B60895/18OCT
BOS 829A C20
PUJ 1239P
5BOS/ETD 0849 - INFLTENTERT - INFLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT TECHNICAL I
SSUE S *0740*HDQFTP
4BOS/OUT 0856 OFF 0909- INFLTENTERT - INFLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT TEC
HNICAL ISSUE S *0809*HDQFTP
2PUJ/ON 1246 IN 1254 *1158*HDQFTP

B60173/18OCT
FLL 956A F9
PUJ 1218P
5FLL/ETD 1150 - LATEARRIVAL - LATE DEPARTURE DUE TO LATE ARRIVAL
OF EQ *1009*HDQFTP
4FLL/OUT 1159 OFF 1213- LATEARRIVAL - LATE DEPARTURE DUE TO LATE
ARRIVAL OF EQ *1114*HDQFTP
2PUJ/ON 1411 IN 1415 *1318*HDQFTP

And for Alaska:

0067/18OCT - FLIGHT ROUTING
SCHEDULE ACTUAL DELAY/CANCEL ARRIVAL
CITY ARRV DEPT ARRV DEPT CODES GATE
SEA ORIG 325P 414P
KTN 428P 518P 518P C1
SIT 609P 700P
JNU 740P 830P
ANC 1012P TERM

3SEA/ETD0350P 0.25L DUE LATE ARRIVAL *1553
4SEA/OUT0414P 0.49L OFF0437P *1839
2KTN/ON 0514P IN 0518P 0.50L *2021
3KTN/DCN DELAYED DUE MX MORE INFO BY 0630P *2033*SEARDF
3SIT/DCN DELAYED DUE FLT 67 LAA MORE INFO BY 0804P *2034*SEARDF
3JNU/DCN DELAYED PENDING ARRIVAL FLT 67 *2034*SEARDF

jrl767

the arrivals board shows SAN-SJC a few minutes early; FR24 finally has the tail number that operated SAN-OMA this morning, but OMA-SAN (which landed about 3 hrs ago) is still missing ... sometimes I really enjoy being analytical and trying to figure things out wrt avoiding complications, but sometimes it gets really frustrating