QX cutting flights due to pilot shortage
Oct 16, 2017, 12:54 pm
#541
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Sorry, but that's not the way resource allocation works in a market economy. (In spite of pilot unions, U.S. carriers can still be described as a market economy.) FedEx (or mainline carriers) can (and will, if needed), pay to get pilots away from Horizon, SkyWest, Envoy, etc. Pilots don't get allocated by the government, nor on a first-come, first-served arrangement. Horizon will have enough pilots on a sustainable basis when pay, work conditions, advancement prospects, etc. reach a market-clearing basis for the skill set (experience, education, attitude) that Horizon seeks. This is a Horizon problem of Horizon's making: we didn't see DL/UA/AA cut 6% of flights on short notice.
Oct 16, 2017, 8:55 pm
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To be fair, subtract the Santa Rosa flights and the ones that were OO flights swapped for QX ones. I counted 8 in/out, not great, but not 18.
Oct 17, 2017, 7:23 am
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Similar pattern today with 9 in/out cancellations, but only 3 that aren't OO/QX swaps or Santa Rosa and one of those is a 9xxx flight.
Oct 17, 2017, 8:27 am
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Does anyone know the extent to which flights to/from GEG-SEA have been effected?
Oct 17, 2017, 8:31 am
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Oct 17, 2017, 6:33 pm
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Oct 17, 2017, 6:44 pm
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Shows 19 from POrtland today. Some yes are duplicates of a flight added, but it looks like Ontario and Sacramento pop up often today, and are not replaced by something else.
It's not over. This is a mess.
It's not over. This is a mess.
Oct 17, 2017, 7:16 pm
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It is interesting that the true cxl's are mostly OO flights now and not QX and that QX is replacing OO flights.
Oct 17, 2017, 7:16 pm
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My QX flight in December from SMF-PDX got switched to an AS 737. It looks like AS mainline is taking over the route at least temporarily....but only a morning and evening flight.
Oct 17, 2017, 8:04 pm
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Oct 17, 2017, 8:30 pm
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Oct 18, 2017, 1:37 am
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Your grossly exaggerating the situation at PDX today as you did yesterday. If your going to state a number then take away the replaced flights, the Santa Rosa flights (where the airport is still on reduced service) and the 9xxx flights which were probably never really on the schedule. I'm not going to do it again for you and your obviously not interested in an objective view on the situation.
It is interesting that the true cxl's are mostly OO flights now and not QX and that QX is replacing OO flights.
It is interesting that the true cxl's are mostly OO flights now and not QX and that QX is replacing OO flights.
I have to wonder how you would feel if it was you who was screwed by this issue - several times lately?
Oct 18, 2017, 6:22 am
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I am not grossly exaggerating anything. I already noted there were substitute flights for many of them. There were 11 real cancellations and not substituted flights. This is a LOT of flights. You can argue Santa Rosa and the fires cause some of it, but the airport is open and running. Furthermore those going traveling to or from Sacramento, Boise, and Ontario took hits today. Those are real passengers on real flights and there was no substitute flight. There's nothing more objective than the hard facts.
I have to wonder how you would feel if it was you who was screwed by this issue - several times lately?
I have to wonder how you would feel if it was you who was screwed by this issue - several times lately?