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Cathay Award Guide Using Alaska Airlines Miles
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Routing Rules:
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
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Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
- If it's not on the award chart, it's not allowed. For example EUROPE is To/From HKG only.
- Stopover are only allowed on any CX award for North America awards as destination or origin. For instance: intra-Asia awards do not get a stopover. It must be a North America->Somewhere or Somewhere->North America award to qualify for a stopover.
- The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS award chart can be misleading about this and give you the impression you can fly an award like Australia/Europe-ICN, but the chart for these award types will show "Hong Kong".
- One stop-over allowed on one way award. You can build open jaw and other advanced routings by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below.
- Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR or SEA.
- As of 5 June 2018 changes/cancellations made to a booking will incur a $125 fee which is waived for MVPG/MVPG75K. Bookings made prior to 5 June will be allowed one complimentary change or cancellation for up to 60 days prior to date of travel.
- Awards can be booked 330 days in advance.
- Cathay and Alaska (or an Alaska flight operated by SkyWest/Horizon on behalf of Alaska) are the only airlines allowed on a Cathay award. No other partner airlines may be used on a single award (e.g. American, JAL, Emirates).
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability 2017 and Later
#2506
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
We are Scheduled to fly out of Lax first week of January to HKG for a day and then onto AKL. Question for you all, I'd love to fly out of JFK to get a longer flight and enjoy those first class seats! Availability doesn't seem to be a problem with either one of the airports within 2 weeks of departure but do you think we are more prone to delays in January at JFK for any kind of weather disturbance?
We have a day layover but I'd rather not waste it with delays in getting out! Thanks for the help
We have a day layover but I'd rather not waste it with delays in getting out! Thanks for the help
There is most certainly a great likelihood of snow at JFK compared to LAX in January. That said, it's impossible to predict whether or not you'd have any delays or cancellations associated. If there's a gigantic winter storm impacting the entire East Coast, you'll obviously be impacted more so at JFK than you would be at LAX, but no way to know that now. If it were me, I'd stick with LAX, but depends on how much risk you want to take to get more time in the seats. :P
#2507
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Alaska 75K
Posts: 91
update: Was finally able to book CX SEA-HKG and return flights yesterday, (changing another itinerary out of LAX), however e-ticket is still not valid on Cathay after 24 hours. Reservation is there, it says not ticketed on CX.
WIll check again and try to get ticket issues fixed with CX and AS tomorrow.
Anyway, it seems like the new SEA - HKG flight is now bookable via AS.
-David
WIll check again and try to get ticket issues fixed with CX and AS tomorrow.
Anyway, it seems like the new SEA - HKG flight is now bookable via AS.
-David
#2508
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: Alaska, United, American, Singapore
Posts: 30
It's certainly not pretty, I had to watch it like a hawk when i first booked the trip. Basically I had to use the same strategy with booking that first class seat with Cathay as I did on our return trip home on Singapore Flying Suites. 365 days out etc to snag those 2 seats from HKG to AKL. I was lucky and got a good Alaska rep out of phoenix who knew how to work the Cathay system and pair the 2 bookings together as one (LAX TO HKG; HKG to AKL).
I've been watching daily to see if any seats pop up for the same time frame and nothing shows up at all. Not even economy awards.
We are very excited for this round the world trip!
Thanks again for the help everyone! If I end up switching cities I'll post here so you all know of possible availability!
Last edited by anthonyparkersd; Jul 24, 2018 at 11:57 am Reason: clarification
#2509
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,898
I had 4 biz awards BKK-HKG-JFK with the HKG-JFK segment in premium economy. One by one I was able to upgrade 3 of us. Even though BA showed space, AS was unable to change from T to U and I checked daily for 3 weeks. To make matters worse, we were split on CX840 and CX846. Upon check in in HKG I asked for 4 biz seats and was told no. Upon further chatting, CX put us on the same flight AND gave my son a courtesy upgrade to Biz all within a matter of 5 mins.
The point is that the airport CAN make changes to AS issued awards without involving AS. It is all about availability and what the agent is willing to do.
The point is that the airport CAN make changes to AS issued awards without involving AS. It is all about availability and what the agent is willing to do.
#2510
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 88
#2511
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,533
I had 4 biz awards BKK-HKG-JFK with the HKG-JFK segment in premium economy. One by one I was able to upgrade 3 of us. Even though BA showed space, AS was unable to change from T to U and I checked daily for 3 weeks. To make matters worse, we were split on CX840 and CX846. Upon check in in HKG I asked for 4 biz seats and was told no. Upon further chatting, CX put us on the same flight AND gave my son a courtesy upgrade to Biz all within a matter of 5 mins.
The point is that the airport CAN make changes to AS issued awards without involving AS. It is all about availability and what the agent is willing to do.
The point is that the airport CAN make changes to AS issued awards without involving AS. It is all about availability and what the agent is willing to do.
#2512
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,635
Airport agents can literally put you in any cabin/flight/other airline as long as they can justify it within their internal guidelines. The airline that issued the ticket has no bearing when it comes to day of departure changes.
#2513
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,401
We are Scheduled to fly out of Lax first week of January to HKG for a day and then onto AKL. Question for you all, I'd love to fly out of JFK to get a longer flight and enjoy those first class seats! Availability doesn't seem to be a problem with either one of the airports within 2 weeks of departure but do you think we are more prone to delays in January at JFK for any kind of weather disturbance?
We have a day layover but I'd rather not waste it with delays in getting out! Thanks for the help
We have a day layover but I'd rather not waste it with delays in getting out! Thanks for the help
#2514
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: Globalist, Marriott Plat, various sundry
Posts: 984
I have a similar question for a flight I have next year about award tickets and ticket changes last minute:
My wife and I are flying LAX-HKG. We've confirmed 1 F (her) and 1 J (me) award. The ideal thing would be to have us traveling in the same class of service on the same flight.
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)? I realize there are unknowns here, so I'm just soliciting opinions.
My wife and I are flying LAX-HKG. We've confirmed 1 F (her) and 1 J (me) award. The ideal thing would be to have us traveling in the same class of service on the same flight.
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)? I realize there are unknowns here, so I'm just soliciting opinions.
#2515
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,401
I have a similar question for a flight I have next year about award tickets and ticket changes last minute:
My wife and I are flying LAX-HKG. We've confirmed 1 F (her) and 1 J (me) award. The ideal thing would be to have us traveling in the same class of service on the same flight.
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)? I realize there are unknowns here, so I'm just soliciting opinions.
My wife and I are flying LAX-HKG. We've confirmed 1 F (her) and 1 J (me) award. The ideal thing would be to have us traveling in the same class of service on the same flight.
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)? I realize there are unknowns here, so I'm just soliciting opinions.
If flying F is more i portant, confirm your seat on the other flight now. But landing at separate times, and potential for delays on the later flight might not be suitable for you.
#2516
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
#2517
Community Director Emerita
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,737
My wife and I are flying LAX-HKG. We've confirmed 1 F (her) and 1 J (me) award. The ideal thing would be to have us traveling in the same class of service on the same flight.
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)?
If there is 1F availability on another flight later in the day, do you think it is worth the risk to confirm the F seat and then see if I can move up to the original flight (assuming, of course, there are seats available)?
1) 1 F and 1 J - it's great to be on the same flight. I've got both expert flyer and award nexus running so I can grab a second F seat if it becomes available. If not, it will be great to arrive in LAX together. I believe we can both use the F lounge in Hong Kong together.
2) 1 F and 1 F - I was able to grab seats on the 2 LAX flights that are four hours apart. This means the proper amount of points have been taken by AS. It's a function of finding a second seat on either of those two flights. If I don't find it in advance to get AS to reticket, perhaps we can persuade CX to do it at the airport. I know that's very iffy, but we have one report in the thread of it happening. I've got my husband on the earlier flight. If we check bags, we will do so on his ticket. The rental car will be in his name. It will be tedious for him to have the time to kill at LAX but he will be ready to pick me up and drive south.
You can ask me in January which worked better.
#2518
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
I have both scenarios in separate trips this year. My reasoning for each:
1) 1 F and 1 J - it's great to be on the same flight. I've got both expert flyer and award nexus running so I can grab a second F seat if it becomes available. If not, it will be great to arrive in LAX together. I believe we can both use the F lounge in Hong Kong together.
1) 1 F and 1 J - it's great to be on the same flight. I've got both expert flyer and award nexus running so I can grab a second F seat if it becomes available. If not, it will be great to arrive in LAX together. I believe we can both use the F lounge in Hong Kong together.
James
#2519
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,035
The passenger in F can bring a guest along into the F lounge in HKG even on awards. My partner and I did that in February. We were flying HKG-BOS one in F & 1 in J. I had the right isle in F all to myself (3 empty F) and my partner was in the mini J cabin just behind me.
James
James
#2520
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
just curious. are you retied? I am 100% leisure travel using my vacation time and money and doing about 200k flown miles (almost all in J class already) and have built up huge pile of alaska miles due to many discount J class tickets that I bought (or AA systemwide) i just dont have time to burn majority of the miles I earn. I even have a tough time to use up my AA systemwide upgrade... (burning miles would be after using up my AA SWU).
I am recently "retired." However with my prior schedule rotation and statutory holidays I stretched my 5 weeks of vacation into 8. We do a couple major vacations each year and shorter 6-9 day mini vacation/mileage runs every 4-6 weeks in between. It is a good use of companion certificates and GGUs. We are both MVPG75K and earn 500-600K RDM between us annually with bonuses and some CC spend. Definitely the challenge is balancing awards and EQM to maintain staus. We do have friends in Australia & South Africa so CX has been useful. Using awards for respoitioning to do mileage runs has been fun too. I have some extra time now and taking advantage of the excellent award rates before any devaluation which seems imminent.
James