Jun 28, 2017, 8:46 pm
Last edit by: eponymous_coward
Cathay Award Guide Using Alaska Airlines Miles
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Routing Rules:
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
- If it's not on the award chart, it's not allowed. For example EUROPE is To/From HKG only.
- Stopover are only allowed on any CX award for North America awards as destination or origin. For instance: intra-Asia awards do not get a stopover. It must be a North America->Somewhere or Somewhere->North America award to qualify for a stopover.
- The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS award chart can be misleading about this and give you the impression you can fly an award like Australia/Europe-ICN, but the chart for these award types will show "Hong Kong".
- One stop-over allowed on one way award. You can build open jaw and other advanced routings by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below.
- Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR or SEA.
- As of 5 June 2018 changes/cancellations made to a booking will incur a $125 fee which is waived for MVPG/MVPG75K. Bookings made prior to 5 June will be allowed one complimentary change or cancellation for up to 60 days prior to date of travel.
- Awards can be booked 330 days in advance.
- Cathay and Alaska (or an Alaska flight operated by SkyWest/Horizon on behalf of Alaska) are the only airlines allowed on a Cathay award. No other partner airlines may be used on a single award (e.g. American, JAL, Emirates).
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability – 2017 and Later
May 30, 2018, 12:13 pm
#2206
Join Date: Feb 2001
Programs: IHG Diamond, HH Diamond, BW Diamond Select, Accor Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 4,228
I went with an open mind, visited a number of areas and stayed in a number of hotels. I'm simply comparing it to other places that I've been nearby (Krabi, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuching, Penang, etc), not to New York or anywhere else in the first world. (Though that does remind me that internet speeds were poor compared to Thailand too.)
Anyhow, we obviously have a different approach. 18 times? I've never been any one place overseas anything like that often. I enjoy variety, so I'm looking at CX for Cebu some day and TG and SQ for more of Thailand and Indonesia.
May 30, 2018, 12:29 pm
#2207
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
Yes. If you look at the charts, you'll see the rates listed for Asia-Europe are from HKG only.
May 30, 2018, 1:00 pm
#2208
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,759
I think it's pretty easy. Compare wages/cost of living, you'd expect Bali to be < 1/10 the price of NYC. A little unfair? Okay, compare to Thailand then. Or just take the word of the Bali cab driver who discussed with me what he'd pay for dinner vs what I was paying.
I went with an open mind, visited a number of areas and stayed in a number of hotels. I'm simply comparing it to other places that I've been nearby (Krabi, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuching, Penang, etc), not to New York or anywhere else in the first world. (Though that does remind me that internet speeds were poor compared to Thailand too.)
Anyhow, we obviously have a different approach. 18 times? I've never been any one place overseas anything like that often. I enjoy variety, so I'm looking at CX for Cebu some day and TG and SQ for more of Thailand and Indonesia.
I went with an open mind, visited a number of areas and stayed in a number of hotels. I'm simply comparing it to other places that I've been nearby (Krabi, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuching, Penang, etc), not to New York or anywhere else in the first world. (Though that does remind me that internet speeds were poor compared to Thailand too.)
Anyhow, we obviously have a different approach. 18 times? I've never been any one place overseas anything like that often. I enjoy variety, so I'm looking at CX for Cebu some day and TG and SQ for more of Thailand and Indonesia.
I dont think Bali holds a candle to Krabi in Thailand but that is just my opinion. We dont like Bali at all. My husband felt it was a total waste of time. So as my brother who lives in HKG. I am more open-minded and feel at least we should go once and see the sights before totally write it off.
BTW, the famous post card sight of the temple by the edge of the water - in reality, the surrounding was quite dirty, very crowded, and I guess you would need to be there at dawn in order to get the feel the post card tries to convey. During mid day? we were very disappointed on what we saw.
Infrastructure is indeed very poor.
That said, we think the seafood stalls and restaurants at Jimbaran Beach are good but not outstanding, nor being any cheap. We had better seafood at Phuket. Plus you have to be watchful and not let the restaurants switched the seafood you paid for with something inferior.
If you are a diver though, diving is very good from what I heard. We have long passed our diver stage in our lives so we no longer keen in going anywhere the diving is good but SIL and her husband went to Bali several times just for the diving. Though they like Philippines better, the islands near Cebu where you have a plan going. Though the islands they went, to me are not safe due to the pirates.
Last edited by Happy; May 30, 2018 at 1:07 pm
May 30, 2018, 1:10 pm
#2209
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG).
May 30, 2018, 1:38 pm
#2210
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
I think it's pretty easy. Compare wages/cost of living, you'd expect Bali to be < 1/10 the price of NYC. A little unfair? Okay, compare to Thailand then. Or just take the word of the Bali cab driver who discussed with me what he'd pay for dinner vs what I was paying.
I went with an open mind, visited a number of areas and stayed in a number of hotels. I'm simply comparing it to other places that I've been nearby (Krabi, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuching, Penang, etc), not to New York or anywhere else in the first world. (Though that does remind me that internet speeds were poor compared to Thailand too.)
Anyhow, we obviously have a different approach. 18 times? I've never been any one place overseas anything like that often. I enjoy variety, so I'm looking at CX for Cebu some day and TG and SQ for more of Thailand and Indonesia.
I went with an open mind, visited a number of areas and stayed in a number of hotels. I'm simply comparing it to other places that I've been nearby (Krabi, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuching, Penang, etc), not to New York or anywhere else in the first world. (Though that does remind me that internet speeds were poor compared to Thailand too.)
Anyhow, we obviously have a different approach. 18 times? I've never been any one place overseas anything like that often. I enjoy variety, so I'm looking at CX for Cebu some day and TG and SQ for more of Thailand and Indonesia.
But, getting back to the topic on hand, wife and kids flying to Singapore for a few days this summer...thinking about switching from CX to JL since JL offers a proper lay-flat product on the Singapore segment. Plus, easier to get all three in F than on CX (though we usually tend to manage).
Best to all - Jamie
May 30, 2018, 4:28 pm
#2211
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-EP, TK-*G, HL-DM, HY-GLO, MR-LTP
Posts: 25,932
I made a booking AMS to HKG and would like to change it to departing from MAN instead. Would this be considered a change or cancellation? Trying to avoid another $15 booking fee !
May 30, 2018, 4:35 pm
#2212
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
So does this mean after June 4th, a cancellation fee of US$125 will apply even if changes/cancellation occurs is more than 60 days?
I made a booking AMS to HKG and would like to change it to departing from MAN instead. Would this be considered a change or cancellation? Trying to avoid another $15 booking fee !
May 30, 2018, 4:48 pm
#2213
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
You will get ONE free change or cancellation to a booking made before June 5th for up to 60 days prior to date of travel (assuming no AS MVPG+ status) because your ticket was issued under those rules. If an award ticket is issued or reissued after June 5th you will no longer be eligible for free changes or cancellations regardless of whether or not it's 60 days before travel.
AS does not modify partner tickets. You get a new ticket each time you change. Thus you get one and only one freebie unless you are Gold+.
That would be a change.
It's important to note that this does not mean "you can make as many changes as you like as long as you originally booked before 6/5/18 and it's 60 days out, just like under the old rules". You will get one and only one change or cancellation.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; May 30, 2018 at 4:58 pm
May 30, 2018, 5:43 pm
#2214
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-EP, TK-*G, HL-DM, HY-GLO, MR-LTP
Posts: 25,932
You will get ONE free change or cancellation to a booking made before June 5th for up to 60 days prior to date of travel (assuming no AS MVPG+ status) because your ticket was issued under those rules. If an award ticket is issued or reissued after June 5th you will no longer be eligible for free changes or cancellations regardless of whether or not it's 60 days before travel.
AS does not modify partner tickets. You get a new ticket each time you change. Thus you get one and only one freebie unless you are Gold+.
That would be a change.
It's important to note that this does not mean "you can make as many changes as you like as long as you originally booked before 6/5/18 and it's 60 days out, just like under the old rules". You will get one and only one change or cancellation.
May 30, 2018, 7:01 pm
#2215
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
You will get ONE free change or cancellation to a booking made before June 5th for up to 60 days prior to date of travel (assuming no AS MVPG+ status) because your ticket was issued under those rules. If an award ticket is issued or reissued after June 5th you will no longer be eligible for free changes or cancellations regardless of whether or not it's 60 days before travel.
AS does not modify partner tickets. You get a new ticket each time you change. Thus you get one and only one freebie unless you are Gold+.
That would be a change.
It's important to note that this does not mean "you can make as many changes as you like as long as you originally booked before 6/5/18 and it's 60 days out, just like under the old rules". You will get one and only one change or cancellation.
for bookings made june 4th and before
* june 4 and before : make as many changes as you want, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
* june 5 and after : can only make one change, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
May 30, 2018, 7:09 pm
#2216
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
yes
for bookings made june 4th and before
* june 4 and before : make as many changes as you want, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
* june 5 and after : can only make one change, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
for bookings made june 4th and before
* june 4 and before : make as many changes as you want, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
* june 5 and after : can only make one change, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
May 30, 2018, 7:16 pm
#2217
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,759
yes
for bookings made june 4th and before
* june 4 and before : make as many changes as you want, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
* june 5 and after : can only make one change, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
for bookings made june 4th and before
* june 4 and before : make as many changes as you want, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
* june 5 and after : can only make one change, or cancel the ticket, as long as departure date is 60+ days out
But if you hold tickets issued before June 5th, and you have not done anything between now and June 4th, you have exactly ONE shot to change / cancel for free as long as the 60 days window requirement is met.
However the way you say it, adds more confusion than clarification as I had to read 3 times before I thought I finally understood what you were saying.
Last edited by Happy; May 30, 2018 at 7:24 pm
May 30, 2018, 10:56 pm
#2218
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
I gather you are trying to say, between now and June 4th, you can cramp in as many changes you want.
But if you hold tickets issued before June 5th, and you have not done anything between now and June 4th, you have exactly ONE shot to change / cancel for free as long as the 60 days window requirement is met.
However the way you say it, adds more confusion than clarification as I had to read 3 times before I thought I finally understood what you were saying.
But if you hold tickets issued before June 5th, and you have not done anything between now and June 4th, you have exactly ONE shot to change / cancel for free as long as the 60 days window requirement is met.
However the way you say it, adds more confusion than clarification as I had to read 3 times before I thought I finally understood what you were saying.
i had to clarify this policy multiple times with AS agents, do trial and error changes with my existing bookings (for clarity, they are all revenue bookings, i dont have any award booking with AS now, not sure if this matters or not - if it does, then award flight bookers should ignore whatever i said), to ensure i understood it right.
what you said is another way of saying it. but as far as i know, even if you have made multiple times of ticket changes prior to June 5th, you can still make one more change or cancellation on june 5th or after. but only one more time. and only if departure date is 60+days away. i could be wrong on this final point, but in any case, i m doing all my changes before the judgment day to avoid any fiascos.
Last edited by gnomey; May 30, 2018 at 11:05 pm
May 31, 2018, 1:34 pm
#2220
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
Is it $12.50 Partner fee for Round trip ?
Also, if I book a round trip from Canada/USA to HKG, can I change the date for the inbound without losing my outbound flight? The request will be post June 5th so one free change allowed.
Example- Booked the round trip prior to June 5th the following: LAX to HKG January 10th , 2019 and HKG to LAX January 21, 2019
Then October 2018 I just want to change the HKG to LAX to February 10th, will my LAX to HKG for January 10th still be intact?
Also, if I book a round trip from Canada/USA to HKG, can I change the date for the inbound without losing my outbound flight? The request will be post June 5th so one free change allowed.
Example- Booked the round trip prior to June 5th the following: LAX to HKG January 10th , 2019 and HKG to LAX January 21, 2019
Then October 2018 I just want to change the HKG to LAX to February 10th, will my LAX to HKG for January 10th still be intact?