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Old Jun 28, 2017, 8:46 pm
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Cathay Award Guide Using Alaska Airlines Miles

Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.

Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
Routing Rules:
  • If it's not on the award chart, it's not allowed. For example EUROPE is To/From HKG only.
  • Stopover are only allowed on any CX award for North America awards as destination or origin. For instance: intra-Asia awards do not get a stopover. It must be a North America->Somewhere or Somewhere->North America award to qualify for a stopover.
  • The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS award chart can be misleading about this and give you the impression you can fly an award like Australia/Europe-ICN, but the chart for these award types will show "Hong Kong".
  • One stop-over allowed on one way award. You can build open jaw and other advanced routings by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below.
  • Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR or SEA.
  • As of 5 June 2018 changes/cancellations made to a booking will incur a $125 fee which is waived for MVPG/MVPG75K. Bookings made prior to 5 June will be allowed one complimentary change or cancellation for up to 60 days prior to date of travel.
  • Awards can be booked 330 days in advance.
  • Cathay and Alaska (or an Alaska flight operated by SkyWest/Horizon on behalf of Alaska) are the only airlines allowed on a Cathay award. No other partner airlines may be used on a single award (e.g. American, JAL, Emirates).

North American Gateway Cities:

Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)

Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington

Award Chart Links*:

Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America


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Old May 21, 2017, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by ianp
I would like to book a EWR-SEA (stop) LAX-HKG-SYD award , I would like to book the EWR-SEA Alaska leg as soon as my dates are available , will I be able to add the CX legs at a week later after the CX awards open up or would I have to book it all at once ?
This would be booked as 2 separate rewards I think.

EWR-SEA
and
LAX-HKG-SYD

So your questions is kind of moot. Book your EWR-SEA award whenever you want. Then you can book LAX-HKG-SYD whenever that becomes available.
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Old May 21, 2017, 6:18 pm
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Haven't been able to figure this out (and I know there's an old post on it in this thread, but the answer seemed to be inconclusive: are the Maldives (MLE) considered part of Africa or Asia on Alaska's award chart? I'm wondering if MLE - HKG - JNB would be a valid routing...
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Old May 22, 2017, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1710
Haven't been able to figure this out (and I know there's an old post on it in this thread, but the answer seemed to be inconclusive: are the Maldives (MLE) considered part of Africa or Asia on Alaska's award chart? I'm wondering if MLE - HKG - JNB would be a valid routing...
Valid but 2 awards. CMB was same.
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Old May 22, 2017, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1710
Haven't been able to figure this out (and I know there's an old post on it in this thread, but the answer seemed to be inconclusive: are the Maldives (MLE) considered part of Africa or Asia on Alaska's award chart? I'm wondering if MLE - HKG - JNB would be a valid routing...
Why would MLE be Africa instead of Middle East or India?

Anyways, like the wiki and other posters say, two awards, breaking at HKG. It doesn't touch North America and it isn't intra-Asia.
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Old May 23, 2017, 7:40 pm
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I read through this thread for some tips before trying to book my first CX award.

JAL showed one F seat on a LAX-HKG flight in a month. Called it in, agent knew immediately how to book it, so grabbed it. Called a couple hours later to add a HKG-MNL segment, and was done without issue or any fee since it was within 24 hours.

Color me impressed, easy and a good value overall. The only issue was getting down to LA from SFO, since Alaska doesn't fly that route, and VX still isn't allowed to be mixed with CX. Awards like this and the extremely generous RDM earnings have me switching to AS next year from UA ^.
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Old May 23, 2017, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
I read through this thread for some tips before trying to book my first CX award.

JAL showed one F seat on a LAX-HKG flight in a month. Called it in, agent knew immediately how to book it, so grabbed it. Called a couple hours later to add a HKG-MNL segment, and was done without issue or any fee since it was within 24 hours.

Color me impressed, easy and a good value overall. The only issue was getting down to LA from SFO, since Alaska doesn't fly that route, and VX still isn't allowed to be mixed with CX. Awards like this and the extremely generous RDM earnings have me switching to AS next year from UA ^.
You should be able to connect in SEA or PDX

Or fly SJC-LAX (route is relaunching)
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Old May 23, 2017, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by beckoa
You should be able to connect in SEA or PDX

Or fly SJC-LAX (route is relaunching)
Yes, technically I probably could have, but I've already done my one free change and it isn't worth the $125 to add that on. Instead I just booked a $50 one way from SFO-LAX. Not complaining, it's still an excellent value.

In the future, does AS allow an open jaw AND stopover when connecting? For example, could I do SJC-SNA / +1 LAX-HKG on the same ticket?
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Old May 23, 2017, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Yes, technically I probably could have, but I've already done my one free change and it isn't worth the $125 to add that on. Instead I just booked a $50 one way from SFO-LAX. Not complaining, it's still an excellent value.

In the future, does AS allow an open jaw AND stopover when connecting? For example, could I do SJC-SNA / +1 LAX-HKG on the same ticket?
That's not an open jaw, since SNA and LAX are coterminals (I've done CX into SFO and AS out of OAK when AS didn't have any ex-SFO flights at a convenient time). But no, you cannot do an open jaw and stopover on a one way (there IS no such thing as an open-jaw on a one way, it would be a ground segment, something like LAS-SEA//YVR-HKG, and that's a no-go). Since AS round trips awards are two one ways, an itinerary of LAX-HKG(stop)-SIN on CX//BKK-NRT(stop)-SFO on JL (double open jaw) would be fine...

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Old May 23, 2017, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Yes, technically I probably could have, but I've already done my one free change and it isn't worth the $125 to add that on. Instead I just booked a $50 one way from SFO-LAX. Not complaining, it's still an excellent value.

In the future, does AS allow an open jaw AND stopover when connecting? For example, could I do SJC-SNA / +1 LAX-HKG on the same ticket?
One free change? Are you outside of 60 days? If so, there's not a limit to the number of changes.
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Old May 23, 2017, 11:38 pm
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I've looked through this thread and the second CX thread for AS redemptions and saw one anecdote about a year back.

Are you able to change a flight/cabin class once you've started your itinerary?

I'm doing ICN- HKG (7 day stop) -LAX for two people. One ticket is completely booked in F and the other ticket as you might guess is ICN-HKG in F and HKG-LAX in J. My concern is the higher likelihood of an F seat being made available during those 7 days I'm in HKG.
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Old May 24, 2017, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by reverted
I've looked through this thread and the second CX thread for AS redemptions and saw one anecdote about a year back.

Are you able to change a flight/cabin class once you've started your itinerary?

I'm doing ICN- HKG (7 day stop) -LAX for two people. One ticket is completely booked in F and the other ticket as you might guess is ICN-HKG in F and HKG-LAX in J. My concern is the higher likelihood of an F seat being made available during those 7 days I'm in HKG.
In response to you and as a follow up to my earlier post, yes and no. Earlier this week I was flying TLV-HKG-SFO in J with a companion in F for the HKG-SFO leg. Of course, F opened up when I was in HKG. The agent wasn't able to upgrade my HKG-SFO flight as the journey had already started. I came up with this solution: redeemed a new HKG-SFO flight in F, and cancelled the J res. I can use it on the same routing anytime within the next year.
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Old May 24, 2017, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by lax.sea.jnu
In response to you and as a follow up to my earlier post, yes and no. Earlier this week I was flying TLV-HKG-SFO in J with a companion in F for the HKG-SFO leg. Of course, F opened up when I was in HKG. The agent wasn't able to upgrade my HKG-SFO flight as the journey had already started. I came up with this solution: redeemed a new HKG-SFO flight in F, and cancelled the J res. I can use it on the same routing anytime within the next year.
Another reason, if you have the miles, to book separate awards. I book DPSHKG And HKGJFK with a 22 hr layover as separate, as HKGJFK consistently releases inventory after I've already flown DPSHKG.
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Old May 24, 2017, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by lax.sea.jnu
In response to you and as a follow up to my earlier post, yes and no. Earlier this week I was flying TLV-HKG-SFO in J with a companion in F for the HKG-SFO leg. Of course, F opened up when I was in HKG. The agent wasn't able to upgrade my HKG-SFO flight as the journey had already started. I came up with this solution: redeemed a new HKG-SFO flight in F, and cancelled the J res. I can use it on the same routing anytime within the next year.
Thank you for your reply. I don't see myself flying HKG-US within the year after travel so won't be able to do that unfortunately.


Originally Posted by jamienbaker
Another reason, if you have the miles, to book separate awards. I book DPSHKG And HKGJFK with a 22 hr layover as separate, as HKGJFK consistently releases inventory after I've already flown DPSHKG.
I may do this then. In your experience jamienbaker, since it looks like you redeem CX F quite often, should I hold out any hope that they release another award seat outside of two weeks from departure? My departure date is 12/28 and cabin is currently F5.
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Old May 24, 2017, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by reverted
Thank you for your reply. I don't see myself flying HKG-US within the year after travel so won't be able to do that unfortunately.




I may do this then. In your experience jamienbaker, since it looks like you redeem CX F quite often, should I hold out any hope that they release another award seat outside of two weeks from departure? My departure date is 12/28 and cabin is currently F5.
I would always hold out hope, but in my experience the furthest out I ever claimed a CX F award (aside from the edge of the booking window) was 11 days when the flight was F6. My best luck has been between T-11 days and T-4 hours, with most clustered around T-3 days. Good luck!

EDIT: My CX travel is exclusively in August, and my greatest success is JFKHKG early in the month. HKGJFK towards the end of the month is tougher due school return, I've never succeeded in getting 4 awards in that direction, only 2 and the second of those usually inside of 24 hours (hence the need to break the award, as referenced above). Hope this clarification helps - Jamie
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Old May 24, 2017, 9:07 am
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Hey folks

Apologies if this is already answered. Did a quick search but didn't find a definitive recent answer.

On this page https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...rd-charts.aspx if I choose US->Asia it shows the terms:

"8. Excludes Hong Kong. The following blackout dates apply for travel between North America and Asia in 2017: Jan 1, Jan 26 - 31, May 12 - Jun 30, Jul 14 - Aug 19, Sep 30 - Oct 10, Dec 8 - Dec 31"

Just want to be clear. By "Excludes Hong Kong" does this mean during the above dates:
  1. I can book award travel to HKG, but I cannot book travel to say NRT? or
  2. I can book award travel to NRT but not HKG?

Hoping it is #1 .

Thanks!
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