E-Jet expansion out of SAN: new markets
May 10, 2017, 10:56 am
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E-Jet expansion out of SAN: new markets
Surprised that the new routes out of San Diego are *all* E175s, not a single 737. I'd think STL and MCI could handle mainline. This probably isn't helping Alaska in their pilot negotiations, who right now do NOT have a scope clause.
Albuquerque: One daily round-trip flight begins Oct. 18.
Austin: One daily round-trip flight begins Aug. 27.
Kansas City: One daily round-trip flight begins Dec. 15.
Minneapolis/St. Paul: One daily round-trip flight begins Nov. 18.
Omaha: One daily round-trip flight begins Aug. 27.
St. Louis: One daily round-trip flight begins Dec. 15.
Albuquerque: One daily round-trip flight begins Oct. 18.
Austin: One daily round-trip flight begins Aug. 27.
Kansas City: One daily round-trip flight begins Dec. 15.
Minneapolis/St. Paul: One daily round-trip flight begins Nov. 18.
Omaha: One daily round-trip flight begins Aug. 27.
St. Louis: One daily round-trip flight begins Dec. 15.
May 10, 2017, 11:13 am
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The Skywest and Horizon E175 all have 76 seats. Even if AS did have a scope clause it would likely not include 76 seat aircraft.
With all the additional flying can we ever see an Alaska Lounge in SAN?
With all the additional flying can we ever see an Alaska Lounge in SAN?
May 10, 2017, 12:45 pm
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OO's lower cost structure likely allows AS to compete on more competitive routes. Mainline labor rates would make some of the E-Jet service much less attractive.
As much of the new OO E-jet routes are O&D, I could see why mainline pilots are unhappy. Management would likely earn significant labor goodwill by using OO as more of a feeder, to create more mainline demand. For example, establishing OO feeder to further grow service from SAN to Hawaii and Western Mexico.
As much of the new OO E-jet routes are O&D, I could see why mainline pilots are unhappy. Management would likely earn significant labor goodwill by using OO as more of a feeder, to create more mainline demand. For example, establishing OO feeder to further grow service from SAN to Hawaii and Western Mexico.
May 10, 2017, 1:44 pm
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OO's lower cost structure likely allows AS to compete on more competitive routes. Mainline labor rates would make some of the E-Jet service much less attractive.
As much of the new OO E-jet routes are O&D, I could see why mainline pilots are unhappy. Management would likely earn significant labor goodwill by using OO as more of a feeder, to create more mainline demand. For example, establishing OO feeder to further grow service from SAN to Hawaii and Western Mexico.
As much of the new OO E-jet routes are O&D, I could see why mainline pilots are unhappy. Management would likely earn significant labor goodwill by using OO as more of a feeder, to create more mainline demand. For example, establishing OO feeder to further grow service from SAN to Hawaii and Western Mexico.
May 10, 2017, 7:21 pm
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I doubt it. What is more likely is that AS ALPA negotiates a rate for an economical plane that has approximately 110-130 seats. That would be the desirable niche for AS.
May 10, 2017, 9:09 pm
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Well... I came to this thread expecting new route announcements, not a rehash 
That being said, it is an interesting rehash.
That being said, it is an interesting rehash.
Jul 25, 2017, 1:18 am
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SAN expansion includes...DAL??
This can't be right, can it?
Alaska's route map shows non-stop service from SAN to DAL on regional. But I've randomly selected a bunch of dates between now and next April, and I don't see anything except VX-AS connections through SFO, or connections through PDX or SEA.
Alaska's route map shows non-stop service from SAN to DAL on regional. But I've randomly selected a bunch of dates between now and next April, and I don't see anything except VX-AS connections through SFO, or connections through PDX or SEA.
Jul 25, 2017, 1:42 am
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This can't be right, can it?
Alaska's route map shows non-stop service from SAN to DAL on regional. But I've randomly selected a bunch of dates between now and next April, and I don't see anything except VX-AS connections through SFO, or connections through PDX or SEA.
Alaska's route map shows non-stop service from SAN to DAL on regional. But I've randomly selected a bunch of dates between now and next April, and I don't see anything except VX-AS connections through SFO, or connections through PDX or SEA.
Jul 26, 2017, 3:10 pm
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