Condor (DE) Partnership (Announced 3/20/2017)
Apr 16, 2019, 9:38 am
#211
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Apr 16, 2019, 2:51 pm
#212
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I wouldn't assume the MH flight will credit at all. MH is not an Alaska Airlines partner. AS will often credit in situations where a codeshare involves another AS partner (e.g., BA ticket, AA flight segment), but a flight segment involving a non-partner on a partner's ticket is not likely to credit.
Apr 16, 2019, 4:31 pm
#213
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I wouldn't assume the MH flight will credit at all. MH is not an Alaska Airlines partner. AS will often credit in situations where a codeshare involves another AS partner (e.g., BA ticket, AA flight segment), but a flight segment involving a non-partner on a partner's ticket is not likely to credit.
Apr 16, 2019, 4:38 pm
#214
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Condor codesharing with other airlines has nothing to do with AS. You won't earn any miles.
Apr 16, 2019, 5:06 pm
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This isn't actually a common question in the AS forum since, well, we're not really concerned with non-AS partner fare class mappings on a DE ticket (since those won't actually accrue to AS). Maybe check out the MH forum?
WhereToCredit seems to note that MH has a lot of coach earning classes that earn at 0 or 25%, and earning overall seems to be better in Enrich than in other programs. If this is a cheap coach ticket I'd assume you might well earn nothing on the MH segment except in MH... if it's PE or J you might have better luck.
Apr 16, 2019, 5:36 pm
#217
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Most often it's LH (and apparently people just credit the LH flights to whatever *A program suits their fancy, since AS won't accept those for credit either).
This isn't actually a common question in the AS forum since, well, we're not really concerned with non-AS partner fare class mappings on a DE ticket (since those won't actually accrue to AS). Maybe check out the MH forum?
WhereToCredit seems to note that MH has a lot of coach earning classes that earn at 0 or 25%, and earning overall seems to be better in Enrich than in other programs. If this is a cheap coach ticket I'd assume you might well earn nothing on the MH segment except in MH... if it's PE or J you might have better luck.
This isn't actually a common question in the AS forum since, well, we're not really concerned with non-AS partner fare class mappings on a DE ticket (since those won't actually accrue to AS). Maybe check out the MH forum?
WhereToCredit seems to note that MH has a lot of coach earning classes that earn at 0 or 25%, and earning overall seems to be better in Enrich than in other programs. If this is a cheap coach ticket I'd assume you might well earn nothing on the MH segment except in MH... if it's PE or J you might have better luck.
Apr 16, 2019, 7:37 pm
#218
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May 3, 2019, 9:49 pm
#219
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Concord EQM & RDM question.. I need to do some miles run to maintain my MVP Gold .. so far I think Condor business class is the most efficient way for me..
I read some posts. Condor Business is 2X EQM which is confirmed.. regarding RDM.. it seems very tricky.. may I know if anyone got 3X RDM (4X with Gold) without elite bonus with Condor business class ?
thanks
I read some posts. Condor Business is 2X EQM which is confirmed.. regarding RDM.. it seems very tricky.. may I know if anyone got 3X RDM (4X with Gold) without elite bonus with Condor business class ?
thanks
May 4, 2019, 12:33 am
#220
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Concord EQM & RDM question.. I need to do some miles run to maintain my MVP Gold .. so far I think Condor business class is the most efficient way for me..
I read some posts. Condor Business is 2X EQM which is confirmed.. regarding RDM.. it seems very tricky.. may I know if anyone got 3X RDM (4X with Gold) without elite bonus with Condor business class ?
thanks
I read some posts. Condor Business is 2X EQM which is confirmed.. regarding RDM.. it seems very tricky.. may I know if anyone got 3X RDM (4X with Gold) without elite bonus with Condor business class ?
thanks
The 100% additional bonus is RDM only and is not tied to Status. The Elite Staus bonus is extra to the above totals so while the 200% EQM applies to every MP Member the total accrued RDM Miles for MP Members is as follows.
No Status, 300%, MVP 350%, MVPG 400% & MVPG75K 425%.
James in Santiago.
May 4, 2019, 2:31 pm
#221
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Garbage in, garbage out.
What did you expect?
You said you called Condor with no luck.... that's unfortunately the ONLY source where you can get the information you want (which, I believe is your FARE CLASS or BUCKET, on the Condor leg, so you can credit that to Alaska -- because the MH segment has nothing at all to do with Alaska/MP). I can tell you that I work with airline codeshares and IT, and DE has a list of about 9 fare buckets that the other airline aligns with their own - some buckets are linked to 2,3, or even 4 fare buckets on the operating airline. But, that doesn't matter because you will NOT get AS credit for an MH leg sold as DE. MH can tell you *their* bucket you are seated in, and DE should be able to tell you which of theirs you are seated in. Your e-ticket may show your fare calculation line and/or fare code though.
What did you expect?
You said you called Condor with no luck.... that's unfortunately the ONLY source where you can get the information you want (which, I believe is your FARE CLASS or BUCKET, on the Condor leg, so you can credit that to Alaska -- because the MH segment has nothing at all to do with Alaska/MP). I can tell you that I work with airline codeshares and IT, and DE has a list of about 9 fare buckets that the other airline aligns with their own - some buckets are linked to 2,3, or even 4 fare buckets on the operating airline. But, that doesn't matter because you will NOT get AS credit for an MH leg sold as DE. MH can tell you *their* bucket you are seated in, and DE should be able to tell you which of theirs you are seated in. Your e-ticket may show your fare calculation line and/or fare code though.
May 7, 2019, 5:41 am
#222
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LH offered to buy Condor
Inhave some business class trip with condor, but it appears that condor is going to be bought by LH as Thomas Cook is selling all airlines in its portfolio. What would happen with Alaska partnership
May 7, 2019, 9:20 am
#223
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If it does happen, what will happen to the partnership would depend on what the current partnership contracts look like, and how talks between LH and AS go. Even once we know it is actually going to happen, we don’t know yet whether they decide to add the brand to the Lufthansa Group, or fold it into one of the existing airlines. Obviously, I would love for it to all shake out with AS partnering with all LH Group airlines, but that’s just me wishful thinking. There’s just as good a chance they fold DE into EW, and the whole partnership goes away, along with Mileage Plan access to J cabins to Europe without insane fees or routings.
Chances are good nothing will have changed by the time your already-booked travel happens.
May 7, 2019, 10:22 am
#224
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LH needs low fare competition gone. Air Berlin is no more, LH target is now DE.
With strong LH and star alliance partnership, Mileage Plan partnership would be a goner. Enjoy it while we can.
Jiburi
With strong LH and star alliance partnership, Mileage Plan partnership would be a goner. Enjoy it while we can.
Jiburi
May 7, 2019, 10:58 am
#225
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The partnership would end. The only question is to what the cut off date will be.