Condor (DE) Partnership (Announced 3/20/2017)
May 17, 2017, 12:52 pm
#106
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 398
I was looking today for flights from europe to NA ( LPA - SNA ).
I am able to book a stopover in FRA. DE is obviously the carrier from LPA - FRA - SEA. AS from SEA - SNA.
Can only get premium economy from LPA - FRA, Business from FRA - SNA, and AS First SEA - SNA. 55k miles + $140.
I know the premium economy and business is not to the level of CX or JAL, but considering how difficult it is to navigate a route between LPA - SNA, seems worthwhile. Especially around new years.
I am able to book a stopover in FRA. DE is obviously the carrier from LPA - FRA - SEA. AS from SEA - SNA.
Can only get premium economy from LPA - FRA, Business from FRA - SNA, and AS First SEA - SNA. 55k miles + $140.
I know the premium economy and business is not to the level of CX or JAL, but considering how difficult it is to navigate a route between LPA - SNA, seems worthwhile. Especially around new years.
May 17, 2017, 1:34 pm
#107
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
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Anyone able to book a stopover, e.g., FRA-SEA on DE, then SEA-SFO on AS (SFO as an example with lots of availability) a week later?
I'm seeing availability for both segments in separate searches, but when I combine them together in multi-city search, I only get AA fares, no DE. Wonder if they just haven't integrated stopovers yet?
I'm seeing availability for both segments in separate searches, but when I combine them together in multi-city search, I only get AA fares, no DE. Wonder if they just haven't integrated stopovers yet?
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May 17, 2017, 6:42 pm
#109
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BLI
Programs: Alaska Million Mile Flyer, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,194
Mondays and Thursdays for Business
Definitely takes some clicking around to find availability for the SEA-FRA non-stop in Business Class.
Snagged two award tickets last night for March 2018, but noticed there was actual availability on Mondays and Thursdays, and none I could find on the weekends. I haven't done an exhaustive search, but that was my initial experience.
Interesting that departure times from SEA on the nonstop do seem to vary by day of the week.
Snagged two award tickets last night for March 2018, but noticed there was actual availability on Mondays and Thursdays, and none I could find on the weekends. I haven't done an exhaustive search, but that was my initial experience.
Interesting that departure times from SEA on the nonstop do seem to vary by day of the week.
May 17, 2017, 8:51 pm
#110
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
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May 18, 2017, 11:16 pm
#111
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Victoria, B.C.
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA Gold LT
Posts: 1,940
How do you get seat assignments. Do you have to call to get a seat assignment? Are they free in business class or is there a fee?
Also if flying in business class do you get lounge access in Frankfurt?
Finally, I noticed on the connecting flight it says business class, but the seat map on the 757 is 3-3 for business class.
Also if flying in business class do you get lounge access in Frankfurt?
Finally, I noticed on the connecting flight it says business class, but the seat map on the 757 is 3-3 for business class.
Last edited by smilee; May 18, 2017 at 11:25 pm
May 18, 2017, 11:33 pm
#112
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
Standard European business class is middle-seat blocked. On Condor 757 it is actually pretty bad (and marketed as premium economy) with a 29" seat pitch throughout.
May 19, 2017, 5:53 pm
#113
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BLI
Programs: Alaska Million Mile Flyer, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,194
However, the AS CSR said next time I call DE for any reason, to clearly state I'm in Business Class upfront. Otherwise, they assume you're in coach and all seats there require a fee in advance.
May 20, 2017, 12:23 am
#114
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PDX/HIO
Programs: AS MVPG; Hertz Pres; Tanquery Million Minier
Posts: 375
You do get LH business lounge access in FRA for departures, very unlikely for arrivals though.
May 20, 2017, 7:06 am
#115
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BLI
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Not sure if it's relevant for your reservation but if they gave you a PNR in addition to the DE confirmation number you can pull up the reservation on Lufthansa's website and select seats. I was able to do that for all legs of my PDX-FRA-SZG RT where FRA-SZG is operated by LH
Amazing. I can do much more with my DE reservation on the LH site than I can on the DE site itself, such as select seats, enter passport information, and add contact information. All of that require a phone call or email contact with DE otherwise (one email of which has gone unanswered, three days later, though its receipt was acknowledged).
Nice find. Thanks for sharing that.
May 20, 2017, 9:58 am
#116
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: UA Million Miler
Posts: 20
Hi. I am going San-MAN via JFK. SAN -JFK is on Jet Blue. JFK-MAN booked on Condor but Thomas Cook Metal. Do I get Alaska miles on the Cook flight MT2849? Returning I go LHR VIE-FRA then FRA-SAN on condor so assume I need to add my Alaska # at FRA? And *A # in VIE? Also I assume I get JetBlue points SAN-JFK but don't want those going to MAN.
May 20, 2017, 11:25 am
#117
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Hi. I am going San-MAN via JFK. SAN -JFK is on Jet Blue. JFK-MAN booked on Condor but Thomas Cook Metal. Do I get Alaska miles on the Cook flight MT2849? Returning I go LHR VIE-FRA then FRA-SAN on condor so assume I need to add my Alaska # at FRA? And *A # in VIE? Also I assume I get JetBlue points SAN-JFK but don't want those going to MAN.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...er-overview:DE
May 20, 2017, 11:43 am
#118
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PDX/HIO
Programs: AS MVPG; Hertz Pres; Tanquery Million Minier
Posts: 375
Amazing. I can do much more with my DE reservation on the LH site than I can on the DE site itself, such as select seats, enter passport information, and add contact information. All of that require a phone call or email contact with DE otherwise (one email of which has gone unanswered, three days later, though its receipt was acknowledged).
May 20, 2017, 4:12 pm
#119
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Some of Thomas Cook are under a DE flight number in the earning range but they are through Canada (Halifax to Manchester for example), it might be possible (too early to test). MT comes up as operated by Air Tanker so it would be a no-go.
May 24, 2017, 9:01 am
#120
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
I had SEA-FRA tickets in Business Class and when I called DE, I was told I had to contact the issuing airline. So I called AS, they called DE, and got me the Business Class seat assignments (no fee; it's part of Business Class).
However, the AS CSR said next time I call DE for any reason, to clearly state I'm in Business Class upfront. Otherwise, they assume you're in coach and all seats there require a fee in advance.
However, the AS CSR said next time I call DE for any reason, to clearly state I'm in Business Class upfront. Otherwise, they assume you're in coach and all seats there require a fee in advance.
Teething problems, I guess.