Condor (DE) Partnership (Announced 3/20/2017)
#541
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, AS 75k, AA Plat, Bonvoyed Gold, Honors Dia, Hyatt Explorer, IHG Plat, ...
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RDM: 12,772 (250%) - based on the account activity
EQM: 6,386 (125%) - based on my spreadsheet
This makes no sense. The EQM earnings match a Premium Economy ticket (but I was in J). 250% RDM matches nothing on this page.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/condor?lid=airline-partnersartners-condor
Well, I've got good news and bad news. The good news is that my SEA-FRA J flight from April 14 finally posted after several back and forth emails with customer care. The bad news is that the miles posted incorrectly at the Premium Economy rate, so I'm missing about 4k EQM and 9k RDM. Looks like more emails in my future.
Did you get it it fixed?
#542
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 153
Forgot to come back and post my update. I responded to Customer Care asking for a correction after my flight posted at PE rates. Surprisingly they fixed it within a day of receiving the request. The EQM adjustment is huge, as I'll make 75k for the first time ever this year (assuming holiday flights go on as planned).
#543
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA 1K/AS 100K …Bonvoy Titanium..Hertz Presidents Club
Posts: 1,116
Ok, never heard back, but the flight now posted. The distance for SEA-FRA is 5109 miles, and what posted appears to be
RDM: 12,772 (250%) - based on the account activity
EQM: 6,386 (125%) - based on my spreadsheet
This makes no sense. The EQM earnings match a Premium Economy ticket (but I was in J). 250% RDM matches nothing on this page.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/condor?lid=airline-partnersartners-condor
RDM: 12,772 (250%) - based on the account activity
EQM: 6,386 (125%) - based on my spreadsheet
This makes no sense. The EQM earnings match a Premium Economy ticket (but I was in J). 250% RDM matches nothing on this page.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/condor?lid=airline-partnersartners-condor
Base miles: 5,109
Bonus: 17,882
Total miles: 22,991
I'm guess there is a class bonus in there some where.
#544
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Ok, never heard back, but the flight now posted. The distance for SEA-FRA is 5109 miles, and what posted appears to be
RDM: 12,772 (250%) - based on the account activity
EQM: 6,386 (125%) - based on my spreadsheet
This makes no sense. The EQM earnings match a Premium Economy ticket (but I was in J). 250%
RDM: 12,772 (250%) - based on the account activity
EQM: 6,386 (125%) - based on my spreadsheet
This makes no sense. The EQM earnings match a Premium Economy ticket (but I was in J). 250%
Setting aside the wrong fare class posting for a moment, the activity RDM would be derived from
100% base + 25% COS + 125% MVPG75K Elite RDM = 250% of flown miles. 5109 × 2.50 is 12,772. EQM would be 5109 × 1.25 = 6,386.
What should have posted,
100% base + 100% COS + 100% RDM Bonus + 125% MVPG75K Elite RDM = 425% of flown miles. 5109 × 4.25 = 21,714. EQM would be 5109 × 2.0 = 10,218.
Hopefully, after all this time, it is corrected promptly.
James
#545
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
The chart shows 100% Base + 200% Bonus = 300% but the last column shows that the EQM earnings are 200%. The additional 100% Bonus is RDM only.
Your earnings indicate you are a MVPG100K.
James
#546
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
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#547
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Programs: Alaska Gold 100k
Posts: 959
Finally got my early July FRA/PDX business class seats credited today. The AS CSA recognized it was way past the window and manually credited it and she couldn’t have been more helpful. However the whole fiasco turned me off Condor and next springs flight is on AA going over (via Seattle) and BA coming back nonstop to PDX. Going via SEA got the price down to about $1,000 under Condors business class price.
#548
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Finally got my early July FRA/PDX business class seats credited today. The AS CSA recognized it was way past the window and manually credited it and she couldn’t have been more helpful. However the whole fiasco turned me off Condor and next springs flight is on AA going over (via Seattle) and BA coming back nonstop to PDX. Going via SEA got the price down to about $1,000 under Condors business class price.
And yes, this fiasco and also fairly unattractive Condor J fares have caused me to look elsewhere or travel for next year.
#549
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SEA, NW/DL 1.6Million Miler
Programs: DL 1MM Annual Silver,AS 100K 22-24, AS 75K 15-21
Posts: 4,278
Did Condor increase its award prices?
Did Condor or Alaska stealthly increase condor's award seat prices?
Just did a award search, and seem to seeing 40K economy seats for routes I've seen 25K prior./..... never mind. Just found some dates at 25K (mostly pre-spring). I don't see 25K award seats for most of summer, sadly.
Jiburi
Just did a award search, and seem to seeing 40K economy seats for routes I've seen 25K prior./..... never mind. Just found some dates at 25K (mostly pre-spring). I don't see 25K award seats for most of summer, sadly.
Jiburi
Last edited by jiburi; Nov 1, 2022 at 10:16 am Reason: retracking my findings
#550
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,030
It looks like Condor is going to charge more both in miles and in cash as they get their new A330NEO's. If you look at cash prices they are getting close to BA on their flights being operated on the new planes next spring.
#551
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I suppose that isn’t entirely unreasonable. I hope they continue to not require round trips for their lowest fares. I often combined a lie-flat award going east with a cheap-ish rev seat in their recliner J going west for my European trips.
#553
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: SAN
Programs: AS 100K, DL MM, AA PLT
Posts: 2,934
Just to add another datapoint, after waiting the required 8 weeks after sending in my BP/receipts (long after the flights), I was able to use the SMS chat to get them manually posted. Was disappointed to see that the double miles promo is just double base miles, not accounting for COS bonus (as AS's internal double miles promos have in the past), so only ended up clearing 450% instead of 550% miles for the RT--i.e. just about enough for a one-way J award which will help numb the pain of both the flight experience and the hassle of getting it all credited.
#554
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Condor Move to T7 at JFK.
Effective January 5th, 2023 Condor Airlines has moved into T7 with Alaska Airlines. Kuwait Airways and SAS to follow.
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#555
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Bay Area, California
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold (ex-75K), Bonvoy Titanium, Recovering United 1K
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Effective January 5th, 2023 Condor Airlines has moved into T7 with Alaska Airlines. Kuwait Airways and SAS to follow.
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