Sep 26, 2019, 6:52 pm
Last edit by: Mwenenzi
Qantas routes Australia to/from USA Canada
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
BNE-LAX B330
MEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
GeneralMEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Consolidated Qantas (QF) Awards Availability/Booking/Routing Thread
Jan 30, 2022, 10:55 pm
#511
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Gold, CX Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 79
Is there any partner business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia?
I looked at many dates, and see a lot of main cabin Qantas award space, but no business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia, ideally looking to fly to Melbourne, but right now just wondering if anyone sees QF business award space?
I looked at many dates, and see a lot of main cabin Qantas award space, but no business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia, ideally looking to fly to Melbourne, but right now just wondering if anyone sees QF business award space?
Aside from that, I have been looking for anything in business between SYD/MEL/BNE-HNL/LAX/DFW for May and June and have not found anything. I found what I thought were a couple in early June a few days ago but when I went to book those, they were phantom availability.
Jan 30, 2022, 11:04 pm
#512
Join Date: Sep 2021
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 248
I managed to fly LAX-SYD in QF Business using AS miles around a week and a half ago. I booked it around three weeks ago.
Aside from that, I have been looking for anything in business between SYD/MEL/BNE-HNL/LAX/DFW for May and June and have not found anything. I found what I thought were a couple in early June a few days ago but when I went to book those, they were phantom availability.
Aside from that, I have been looking for anything in business between SYD/MEL/BNE-HNL/LAX/DFW for May and June and have not found anything. I found what I thought were a couple in early June a few days ago but when I went to book those, they were phantom availability.
Jan 30, 2022, 11:09 pm
#513
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Gold, CX Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 79
wow great that you were able to book recently, I was ask looking for the same ish flights as you and didnt see any availability after hours of looking, i dont understand, I really thought there would be at least some availability, is Qantas always like this, is availability always so scarce, is it even worth booking with miles in main?
They often make more award seats available to their own members using Qantas points. For example, I was able to secure one of the flights I wanted from LAX-BNE in Business for late May using Qantas points.
As for whether it is worth using Alaska miles for a Qantas flight in main/economy, that is up to you and how you value your miles. Personally, I feel like I could always find a better use but that depends on your own situation.
Jan 31, 2022, 8:22 am
#514
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, ex-AA EXP, ex-UA 1K
Posts: 707
Just FYI, I saw this thread & decided to take a peek at what QF has available next week. Based on the comments on this thread, I'm assuming these results are quite unusual: multiple flights with J availability, but nothing in Y??
Jan 31, 2022, 9:51 am
#515
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 252
I had two business seats booked round trip, SFO to SYD for the end of April.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
Jan 31, 2022, 10:11 am
#516
Join Date: Sep 2021
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 248
I had two business seats booked round trip, SFO to SYD for the end of April.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
Jan 31, 2022, 10:42 am
#517
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, ex-AA EXP, ex-UA 1K
Posts: 707
I don’t think this is common for most days, because if you look for like 2 months from now onwards there is only main cabin, in my hours of searching yesterday I only found like 4 lax to Australia flights this summer with business space, and there is only 1 seat available and I would need 2 seats, and I was really hoping to find business on lax to syd on there a380 and unfortunately did not find any.
Btw QF isn't currently flying the LAX-SYD nonstop, period, abroad its A380, likely because they have nowhere near sufficient demand to merit using such a large aircraft (only its 789 into MEL, which has half the seat count of the A380).
Jan 31, 2022, 10:46 am
#518
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Is there any partner business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia?
I looked at many dates, and see a lot of main cabin Qantas award space, but no business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia, ideally looking to fly to Melbourne, but right now just wondering if anyone sees QF business award space?
I looked at many dates, and see a lot of main cabin Qantas award space, but no business award space from lax to anywhere in Australia, ideally looking to fly to Melbourne, but right now just wondering if anyone sees QF business award space?
Jan 31, 2022, 11:12 am
#519
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Gold, CX Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 79
This is simply not correct. Qantas are currently flying nonstop between SYD-LAX with most flights on an A380. I flew it 10 days ago.
Jan 31, 2022, 11:16 am
#520
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Gold, CX Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 79
Jan 31, 2022, 11:17 am
#521
Join Date: Sep 2021
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 248
I'll hazard a guess that they're only releasing award-ticket inventory to partners (at least in J) within 1-2 weeks of a flight, given all the ongoing uncertainty with Covid – most of all Australia still being largely cut off from tourism, and Americans are effectively forbidden from entering barring special circumstances. Also, early February is normally peak season there – and, by extension, summer is not. I wouldn't personally try to book anything more than a month out, period, given the strong likelihood of QF cancelling flights due to a lack of demand (or perhaps trying to move you over to the MEL flight after all of its J seats are already gone, leaving you up a creek).
Btw QF isn't currently flying the LAX-SYD nonstop, period, abroad its A380, likely because they have nowhere near sufficient demand to merit using such a large aircraft (only its 789 into MEL, which has half the seat count of the A380).
Btw QF isn't currently flying the LAX-SYD nonstop, period, abroad its A380, likely because they have nowhere near sufficient demand to merit using such a large aircraft (only its 789 into MEL, which has half the seat count of the A380).
Jan 31, 2022, 11:24 am
#522
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,010
I had two business seats booked round trip, SFO to SYD for the end of April.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
Then last week Qantas canceled their SFO service for that period.
Instead of providing LAX/SYD, as a protection, it was just canceled.
Alaska partner desk, says all they can do is request Y seats. Qantas won’t allow business to be requested.
I guess joining One World, doesn’t really mean much if that is all the pull they have.
USA<--->AU business class awards have been hard to get for years.
For QF top tier status OWE OWS awards are available from 353 days out (vs 330 for AA-AS)
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Jan 31, 2022 at 12:13 pm
Jan 31, 2022, 11:59 am
#523
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YVR
Posts: 344
Jan 31, 2022, 3:10 pm
#524
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,404
I wonder if the actual TPAC biz class seat was phantom, and the award is really mixed class… coach on the TPAC followed by business class for the connecting domestic sector?
Jan 31, 2022, 3:16 pm
#525
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Gold, CX Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 79
It was actually the opposite (TPAC was in Business, the connecting domestic sector was in Economy).