Sep 26, 2019, 6:52 pm
Last edit by: Mwenenzi
Qantas routes Australia to/from USA Canada
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Looking for awards only on LAX-SYD route restricts your options.
AS award chart:---> https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...s/award-charts
Note these routes and/or aircraft type may change. Not all routes have flights every day.
May not be up to date
BNE-LAX B330
MEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
GeneralMEL-DFW B787
MEL-LAX B787 (was the first A380 route for Qantas on 21 October 2008)
MEL-DFW B787
SYD-DFW B787 A380
SYD-HNL
SYD-AKL-JFK B787 (from June 2023)
SYD-LAX A380 B787
SYD-SFO
SYD-YVR
The QF A380 have first, business, premium economy & economy classes. Only the A380 has first class.
The QF B787's have, business, premium economy & economy classes. The B787’s do not have first class.
All QF B747's have been retired and sent to the Mojave desert. (July 2020)
QF starts to release their awards 353 days out to QF frequent flyers. But awards can be released any time out to departure. Anyone can join the QF ffp and then search for award availability. Be careful about mixed economy/business QF awards. These have an identifying symbol on the award flight.
A business class flight will give access to the Qantas Club or Qantas Business lounge. Major domestic airports have both a Qantas Club lounge, for mid level Oneworld status holders and paid QF club members, and a better Business lounge, with access by business class of service or top level Oneworld status. Domestic lounges can get very busy at morning and late afternoon peaks.
From QF web site QF seat maps
Qantas Australia domestic
Award availability on QF domestic routes in both business & economy is usually OK. Can be harder on longer routes (say 3~ 4 hour flights).
The workhorse of QF Mainline domestic fleet is the B737-800. QF have 75 of these in a 12J162Y configuration. Some schedules have a A330, some of which have international style business seats. These 2 aircraft types are also used on trans Tasman routes (Australia to New Zealand).
General Qantas information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
The QantasLink brand is used on regional routes to smaller cities and towns. The aircraft used are Dash 8's (de Havilland Canada DHC-8-200, Bombardier Dash 8 Q300 & Q400) in all an Y configuration, Foker 100 in all 105Y configuration and B717's in 12JY98 or 125Y configuration.
General QantasLink information Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
Qantas information Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QantasLink
AA sub forum thread They have the same problems getting awards on QF and to AU/NZ & South Pacific--->
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
AA MileSAAver award to / from Australia, New Zealand (master thread)
FJ / Fiji Airways (ex-Air Pacific) and AA, miles, awards, etc. (consolidated)
AA Miles Award: TN / Air Tahiti Nui award redemptions (master thread)
Revisions
11 Jun 2022 QF announcements removed (except for 2) as AU is open and QF is flying AU<--->USA
15 Jun 2022 Deleted some dead links
11 Dec 2022 Remove redundant links. Revise routes
27 Dec 2022 MEL DFW added
25 Feb 2023 Formatting
13 Aug 2023 Added SYD-SFO
Consolidated Qantas (QF) Awards Availability/Booking/Routing Thread
Mar 5, 2019, 9:31 am
#181
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA, USA.
Programs: AA, AS, BA, QF
Posts: 58
An article on Alaska Program just came out on Business Insider. If any of you is a subscriber to Business Insider maybe you could post a comment regarding the discussion we have been having. Here is URL to the article
https://nordic.businessinsider.com/a...it-card-review
https://nordic.businessinsider.com/a...it-card-review
Mar 5, 2019, 9:55 am
#182
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA, USA.
Programs: AA, AS, BA, QF
Posts: 58
It would not hurt if a bunch of us wrote to both Business Insider and The Point Guy about this... here are the addresses:
[email protected] [email protected]
[email protected] [email protected]
Mar 5, 2019, 10:56 am
#183
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA, USA.
Programs: AA, AS, BA, QF
Posts: 58
Business Insider has already updated its article including the following language:
"One thing worth keeping in mind is that it can be difficult to for Alaska members to find availability with certain partners. In particular, members of the frequent flyer forum FlyerTalk have reported that it's become increasingly difficult to find award space in business or first class on Australian partner airline Qantas, even when award seats can be found through other Qantas partners.
While it's not uncommon for some airlines to hold award seats back from its partners, favoring its own members, this Qantas issue seems to be unique to Alaska. At time of publication, there seems to be no availability open to Alaska members throughout the entire calendar."
https://www.businessinsider.com/alas...it-card-review
"One thing worth keeping in mind is that it can be difficult to for Alaska members to find availability with certain partners. In particular, members of the frequent flyer forum FlyerTalk have reported that it's become increasingly difficult to find award space in business or first class on Australian partner airline Qantas, even when award seats can be found through other Qantas partners.
While it's not uncommon for some airlines to hold award seats back from its partners, favoring its own members, this Qantas issue seems to be unique to Alaska. At time of publication, there seems to be no availability open to Alaska members throughout the entire calendar."
https://www.businessinsider.com/alas...it-card-review
Mar 5, 2019, 11:35 am
#184
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 11
It would not hurt if a bunch of us wrote to both Business Insider and The Point Guy about this... here are the addresses:
[email protected] [email protected]
[email protected] [email protected]
Mar 8, 2019, 4:43 pm
#188
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
F availability last I checked matches well with other partners, but US-SYD/MEL J availability via AS is non-existent any day of the year. I cannot believe Qantas would release the same F to AS but hold back all J so I conclude that either AS is blocking all J or they have had an IT bug for more than a year either by design or incompetence, not sure which.
Mar 11, 2019, 3:00 pm
#189
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: Air New Zealand Elite
Posts: 445
I concur with others that I haven't been able to find QF J awards despite extensive searching. However MEL/BNE-LAX-JFK in PE with a stopover is still a good deal as long as the flights are day time flights.
I very much doubt AS is blocking QF J awards in their system. Why would they want to do that? It puts people buying off their miles in their sales. They want people to hand over their money for them to use. It's more likely that QF aren't releasing J awards to AS IMO. I won't be buying any more AS miles speculatively, far too time consuming and hard to find award availability in AS.
I very much doubt AS is blocking QF J awards in their system. Why would they want to do that? It puts people buying off their miles in their sales. They want people to hand over their money for them to use. It's more likely that QF aren't releasing J awards to AS IMO. I won't be buying any more AS miles speculatively, far too time consuming and hard to find award availability in AS.
Mar 11, 2019, 9:37 pm
#190
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Why would QF release the same F awards to AS as other partners but not J awards? It does not make sense to me. I believe it much more likely the block is on the AS side, but whether it is intentional, ignorance, or incompetence, I can't say.
Mar 15, 2019, 6:14 pm
#193
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Good job. I feel like they hold back space on the JFK-LAX. Under 24 hours is considered a connection and not a stopover on international itins. So you have just one stopover and that is in MEL.
Mar 16, 2019, 2:55 pm
#194
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 123
FYI-
I just pulled up PDX > SYD In J for Dec 14th. 1 seat via SFO and one seat via LAX. And yes it was truly in J. Mixed itin from PDX in coach to SFO/LAX but the Transpacific leg was in J. Flight 18 and flight 74. Go get em
I was just playing around with search as I will be flying PDX > SYD in early 2020 and was frustrated as everyone else that no J were coming up the whole year. Well, now there are at least two seats available. Dec 15th has J availability too. As of today most dates in early Dec have at least one seat in J from either SFO or LAX to SYD. A bunch of J availability from west coast US to SYD or MEL across many November Dates as well.
I just pulled up PDX > SYD In J for Dec 14th. 1 seat via SFO and one seat via LAX. And yes it was truly in J. Mixed itin from PDX in coach to SFO/LAX but the Transpacific leg was in J. Flight 18 and flight 74. Go get em
I was just playing around with search as I will be flying PDX > SYD in early 2020 and was frustrated as everyone else that no J were coming up the whole year. Well, now there are at least two seats available. Dec 15th has J availability too. As of today most dates in early Dec have at least one seat in J from either SFO or LAX to SYD. A bunch of J availability from west coast US to SYD or MEL across many November Dates as well.
Last edited by jonnyz1245; Mar 16, 2019 at 3:39 pm Reason: added more dates
