Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Alaska Airlines | Mileage Plan
Reload this Page >

Consolidated Qantas (QF) awards availability/booking/routing thread

Consolidated Qantas (QF) awards availability/booking/routing thread

Reply

Old Feb 25, 19, 7:48 pm
  #166  
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: NZ
Posts: 626
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
I have noticed that QF awards via AS are not available further out but did not calculate a days out number, so it's 253. This is either a severe IT bug or a conscious decision by AS to limit value to its members. Someone needs to hold AS's feet to the fire on issues like this. I have not been looking for QF awards or I would be very angry. I am upset at the way they either have incompetent IT staff with no intention of correcting the situation or they hide their shady behavior behind a veil of ignorance. Which is it? I wish I knew.

Oh, BTW, last time I checked there were literally no USA to Australia J awards on QF -- EVER -- even when other partners have space! Is this still a thing?
I don't know the reason for this, but it could be part of the agreement between AS and QF that longhaul award bookings are only available 100 days after everybody else. With such low redemption rates QF may have wanted to make it much harder for AS MP people to get award seats.

Yes, never seen J. It is actually easier to get F, but that's a matter of luck too.
minz56 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 25, 19, 9:33 pm
  #167  
2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Programs: IHG Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 3,942
[QUOTE=skimthetrees;30821821This is either a severe IT bug or a conscious decision by AS to limit value to its members.[/QUOTE]

Pretty obviously the latter. They have gutted CX similarly. AS is running a scam and just waiting for a class-action law suit, IMHO. (Yes, I know what the T&Cs say about availability, but AS has unilaterally manipulated availability to make sure there isn't any on partners which offer the best value.)
Kremmen is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 25, 19, 10:30 pm
  #168  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by Kremmen View Post
Pretty obviously the latter. They have gutted CX similarly. AS is running a scam and just waiting for a class-action law suit, IMHO. (Yes, I know what the T&Cs say about availability, but AS has unilaterally manipulated availability to make sure there isn't any on partners which offer the best value.)
CX gutted CX. I think most of the problems people have booking CX on AS is the poorly trained agents. Availability was gutted by CX.
Ellice and pbelmore like this.
skimthetrees is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 19, 2:42 am
  #169  
2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Programs: IHG Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 3,942
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
CX gutted CX. I think most of the problems people have booking CX on AS is the poorly trained agents. Availability was gutted by CX.
CX's massive drop in availability generally is a separate issue. Even when others partners can see 4 or 5 premium class seats, AS doesn't see it. (If it's "poorly trained agents", that's an awfully convenient excuse and one that AS has obviously done nothing to correct.)
Kremmen is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 19, 3:21 am
  #170  
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AA, AS Gold 75K, BA, QF, SQ, Marriott Platinum Premiere
Posts: 1,957
Originally Posted by Kremmen View Post
Pretty obviously the latter. They have gutted CX similarly. AS is running a scam and just waiting for a class-action law suit, IMHO. (Yes, I know what the T&Cs say about availability, but AS has unilaterally manipulated availability to make sure there isn't any on partners which offer the best value.)
Hilarious! What are your specific data points to substantiate that AS is running a scam?

I guess the 21 F&J awards I have booked on QF, CX & JL in the last 18 months are only a figment of my imagination.

James on the Oceania Marina enroute to Bora Bora.
pbelmore likes this.
Flying for Fun is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 19, 9:22 am
  #171  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by Flying for Fun View Post
I guess the 21 F&J awards I have booked on QF, CX & JL in the last 18 months are only a figment of my imagination.
In the last 6 months have you booked a J award on QF from USA to Australia? AS blocks them all. Show me one example - ONE - of a J award USA to Australia or Australia to USA in J available on the AS website for any date in the schedule - all year long. I have not found any and I do not think they exist. F, yes. J, no.
qgpv likes this.
skimthetrees is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 8:59 am
  #172  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
In the last 6 months have you booked a J award on QF from USA to Australia? AS blocks them all. Show me one example - ONE - of a J award USA to Australia or Australia to USA in J available on the AS website for any date in the schedule - all year long. I have not found any and I do not think they exist. F, yes. J, no.

Does AS block them all only from the website and you have to call in and book them over the phone if you see them on BA? Or are they no longer available moving forward? I will be looking for J or F flights for early 2020. In years past I have had no problem securing both F and J seats to and from SYD/MEL out of LAX. If we have to take CX, that is fine but nonstop is always a good option.
jonnyz1245 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 9:02 am
  #173  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 52
[QUOTE=

James on the Oceania Marina enroute to Bora Bora.[/QUOTE]

Enjoy! We just got off the Marina in PPT a few weeks ago. Great trip and amazing food. Go snorkeling with the rays and sharks in Bora Bora! So much fun.
jonnyz1245 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 9:19 am
  #174  
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA, USA.
Programs: AA, AS, BA, QF
Posts: 48
The agents on the phone do no see them either. I agree that up until about a year ago AS allowed to book QF awards about a year out (perhaps 330 days out). QF award booking through AS has now changed qualitatively, and this discussion has not yet determined whether it is an IT bug, or a conscious policy/decision.

Does anyone have an idea of how to move forward? If it is an IT bug, it can be fixed, but how? And if it is a conscious policy/decision, can it be reversed?
qgpv is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 10:50 am
  #175  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by qgpv View Post
The agents on the phone do no see them either. I agree that up until about a year ago AS allowed to book QF awards about a year out (perhaps 330 days out). QF award booking through AS has now changed qualitatively, and this discussion has not yet determined whether it is an IT bug, or a conscious policy/decision.

Does anyone have an idea of how to move forward? If it is an IT bug, it can be fixed, but how? And if it is a conscious policy/decision, can it be reversed?
Thanks for clarifying.

I guess time will tell as to whether or not J becomes available again. I see plenty of Premium Economy availability on multiple US-AUS routes for an almost unlimited amount of dates over the next 300 days.

FYI I did see a random F seat on an LAX-SYD flight in July the other day. It was gone the next day.
jonnyz1245 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 12:13 pm
  #176  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by jonnyz1245 View Post
I guess time will tell as to whether or not J becomes available again.
Time has already told. It has been this way for at least 6 months and probably closer to a year. Nothing will be changing unless someone can get AS's attention on this matter to either admit it is a bug and fix it or admit it is a policy decision and change it.
skimthetrees is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 1:34 pm
  #177  
2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Between SFO and STS
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold, United Serf, Delta Peon
Posts: 504
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
Time has already told. It has been this way for at least 6 months and probably closer to a year. Nothing will be changing unless someone can get AS's attention on this matter to either admit it is a bug and fix it or admit it is a policy decision and change it.
Maybe a Chris McGinnis exposť?
qgpv likes this.
DrAlex is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27, 19, 6:09 pm
  #178  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
Time has already told. It has been this way for at least 6 months and probably closer to a year. Nothing will be changing unless someone can get AS's attention on this matter to either admit it is a bug and fix it or admit it is a policy decision and change it.

Got it! Thanks
jonnyz1245 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 28, 19, 5:13 am
  #179  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 1,045
Originally Posted by DrAlex View Post
Maybe a Chris McGinnis exposť?
A popular well respected journalist or blogger would be most helpful. Do you have any contacts?
skimthetrees is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 28, 19, 12:20 pm
  #180  
2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Between SFO and STS
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold, United Serf, Delta Peon
Posts: 504
Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
A popular well respected journalist or blogger would be most helpful. Do you have any contacts?
LOL. No... I thought someone else might happen by this thread and know someone. I suppose there's always the news 7 on your side if someone wants to go for broke.
DrAlex is online now  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread