Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Feb 14, 2019, 9:01 am
#676
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
Hi guys, i'm considering to purchase miles from Alaska Air for the first time and Alaska Air is currently selling miles till 23rd Feb 2019 at 40% discount.
Any idea if i could purchase say 50,400 miles x 2 separate transactions during this sale = 100,800 miles in total by 23rd Feb?
I understand that the t&c does not allow one account/member to purchase more than 150,000 miles in a year.
Any idea if i could purchase say 50,400 miles x 2 separate transactions during this sale = 100,800 miles in total by 23rd Feb?
I understand that the t&c does not allow one account/member to purchase more than 150,000 miles in a year.
Unable to book tickets for family using miles
AS Cancels EK Award Tickets for My Friend [Possible Merge]
Feb 14, 2019, 1:31 pm
#677
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
You might want to look at these threads before you decide to buy, if you are a person outside the USA (perhaps Singapore?) looking at using AS strictly as a way to buy JL premium class flights for cheap, who never intends to fly the airline.
Unable to book tickets for family using miles
AS Cancels EK Award Tickets for My Friend [Possible Merge]
Hi guys, i'm considering to purchase miles from Alaska Air for the first time and Alaska Air is currently selling miles till 23rd Feb 2019 at 40% discount.
Any idea if i could purchase say 50,400 miles x 2 separate transactions during this sale = 100,800 miles in total by 23rd Feb?
I understand that the t&c does not allow one account/member to purchase more than 150,000 miles in a year.
Any idea if i could purchase say 50,400 miles x 2 separate transactions during this sale = 100,800 miles in total by 23rd Feb?
I understand that the t&c does not allow one account/member to purchase more than 150,000 miles in a year.
Based on a couple of recent trouble reports of people outside the US trying to use miles purchased to a new account if I were outside the US with a new account I would first try to credit a partner flight to my account and then wait a month or so before purchasing miles. You definitely can purchase miles to a new account but if you are outside the US be aware there may or may not be restrictions placed on new accounts that purchase miles.
Feb 16, 2019, 11:25 am
#679
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: BA Executive Club, AS Airlines Mileage Plan
Posts: 981
I was so happy when I was able to book our flight to Japan and back in November with our AS miles, in business class going over and First coming back (via SFO). A week ago we discovered I had entered my husband’s first name as Wlliam, not the correct spelling. (I am curious how many caught that mistake on first reading). Totally my fault (poor eyesight for fine details). JL absolutely will not allow a name change on the tickets. The Partner Desk said they would try to work with JL to cancel and be-book, but that was not possible. So this morning I canceled the tickets and got our miles refunded.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Last edited by enzian; Feb 18, 2019 at 11:40 am
Feb 16, 2019, 11:33 am
#680
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: BA Executive Club, AS Airlines Mileage Plan
Posts: 981
I also have a question About the Expert Flyer search and alert form. It asks for class code, but lists lots of different ones for business class on JL (C, D, J, U, and X), and both A and Z for First.
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
Feb 16, 2019, 11:55 am
#681
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York
Programs: Marriott Gold, AA, United, Delta, Alaska
Posts: 144
I was so happy when I was able to book our flight to Japan and back in November with our AS miles, in business class going over and First coming back (via SFO). A week ago we discovered I had entered my husband’s first name as Wlliam, not the corrected spelling. (I am curious how many caught that mistake on first reading). Totally my fault (poor eyesight for fine details). JL absolutely will not allow a name change on the tickets. The Partner Desk said they would try to work with JL to cancel and be-book, but that was not possible. So this morning I canceled the tickets and got our miles refunded.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Feb 16, 2019, 11:56 am
#682
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I was so happy when I was able to book our flight to Japan and back in November with our AS miles, in business class going over and First coming back (via SFO). A week ago we discovered I had entered my husband’s first name as Wlliam, not the corrected spelling. (I am curious how many caught that mistake on first reading). Totally my fault (poor eyesight for fine details). JL absolutely will not allow a name change on the tickets. The Partner Desk said they would try to work with JL to cancel and be-book, but that was not possible. So this morning I canceled the tickets and got our miles refunded.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Perhaps CX could be an option? AS does not show it online so you have to call or check with another partner like QF or BA to check availability. I usually start checking with QF.
Feb 16, 2019, 11:57 am
#683
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York
Programs: Marriott Gold, AA, United, Delta, Alaska
Posts: 144
I also have a question About the Expert Flyer search and alert form. It asks for class code, but lists lots of different ones for business class on JL (C, D, J, U, and X), and both A and Z for First.
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
Feb 16, 2019, 12:02 pm
#684
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I also have a question About the Expert Flyer search and alert form. It asks for class code, but lists lots of different ones for business class on JL (C, D, J, U, and X), and both A and Z for First.
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
I looked on our cancelled tickets and found class U for the business class award and Z for the Firste award. So I used those. Is that correct?
If you are already beyond schedule open availability can happen anytime so I would not wait. I would keep checking.
Feb 16, 2019, 12:23 pm
#685
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: BA Executive Club, AS Airlines Mileage Plan
Posts: 981
Thank you for encouraging me to keep checking! The First seats HND to SFO were back, so I got them. Not the SEA to NRT outbound, though. I will keep checking for that but susp[ect they were restored and someone else grabbed them.
Anyway, I am very happy to get the return in First back.
Love this forum.
Anyway, I am very happy to get the return in First back.
Love this forum.
Last edited by enzian; Feb 18, 2019 at 11:58 am
Feb 18, 2019, 10:29 pm
#686
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Looking for DEL-NRT (stop) NRT-ORD in Biz on JL.
AS website shows no availability,
However, per Awardnexus, BA and QF do show availability.
What gives and how to proceed?
Where else, besides AS, can you book JL awards with stopover?
Thanks!
AS website shows no availability,
However, per Awardnexus, BA and QF do show availability.
What gives and how to proceed?
Where else, besides AS, can you book JL awards with stopover?
Thanks!
Feb 19, 2019, 8:58 am
#687
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
You want a one-way award with a stopover on JL? You can do this on AA, BA, or QF but they will charge as two awards. The only other program I that I know of that I think offers a stopover on a one-way award on JL is CX AsiaMiles.
Feb 19, 2019, 9:03 am
#688
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
AS does not offer JAL awards to India so that is why it is not showing on AS. You could pair an AS award NRT-ORD with another program DEL-NRT.
You want a one-way award with a stopover on JL? You can do this on AA, BA, or QF but they will charge as two awards. The only other program I that I know of that I think offers a stopover on a one-way award on JL is CX AsiaMiles.
You want a one-way award with a stopover on JL? You can do this on AA, BA, or QF but they will charge as two awards. The only other program I that I know of that I think offers a stopover on a one-way award on JL is CX AsiaMiles.
I would include a screenshot but FT is broken. Way to go. Gee, I wonder why I won’t disable ads to help support you...
OP: One possible cause is end of schedule JL flights on AS have problems, if you review the thread. Give it a day or two. Note that EOS is different on AS than BA/QF.
Feb 19, 2019, 11:55 am
#689
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
AS does not offer JAL awards to India so that is why it is not showing on AS. You could pair an AS award NRT-ORD with another program DEL-NRT.
You want a one-way award with a stopover on JL? You can do this on AA, BA, or QF but they will charge as two awards. The only other program I that I know of that I think offers a stopover on a one-way award on JL is CX AsiaMiles.
You want a one-way award with a stopover on JL? You can do this on AA, BA, or QF but they will charge as two awards. The only other program I that I know of that I think offers a stopover on a one-way award on JL is CX AsiaMiles.
