Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Feb 11, 2017, 10:19 am
#46
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A similar experience here. I booked an F seat the other day. Twice after payment, it hung and hung and finally errored out, saying partner space could not be confirmed. I was just about to call, as BA was showing the seat available, when I tried it one more time. Third time lucky, I guess, as it went through and ticketed immediately.
I wouldn't have even known F existed if it were't for this post (since i had to look):
Feb 11, 2017, 6:02 pm
#47
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Can you explain why these seats in J are less desirable? Is it the type of aircraft or the way JL configures them?
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Feb 11, 2017, 7:05 pm
#48
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i believe ex-YVR uses this version of J
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ja...es_787-800.php
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servic...llflatneo.html
the better routes use sky suites aka lieflat (all seats have aisle access - hard to get out of middle/window seat if you're wider than normal)
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ja..._787-800_B.php
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servic.../skysuite.html
Feb 12, 2017, 8:45 am
#49
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Thanks. What are the gateway cities on the West Coast for flying to either Osaka or Tokyo? We don't mind traveling down to SFO, LAX, or other city if they offer better flight choices than YVR.
Feb 12, 2017, 9:28 am
#50
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Feb 12, 2017, 10:28 am
#51
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Anyone else noticing that Mainland China is pricing as SE Asia?
I was trying to put together a better list of Asian destinations but only the following are supposed to qualify as SE Asia
Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Thailand, Philippines, and Cambodia
I was trying to put together a better list of Asian destinations but only the following are supposed to qualify as SE Asia
Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Thailand, Philippines, and Cambodia
Feb 12, 2017, 11:10 am
#52
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Thanks! And which of those routes offer the better J product?
SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
Feb 12, 2017, 11:27 am
#53
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Thanks! And which of those routes offer the better J product?
SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
One thing to note for JAL is they tend to open up a ton of availability close in. You can always find some route if you're willing to book only two weeks before departure.
Feb 13, 2017, 4:23 pm
#54
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Has anyone tried doing a NRT//HND connection? I'm aiming for SIN-HND//NRT-YVR as there's no availability on SIN-NRT.
Feb 13, 2017, 4:28 pm
#55
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I'd want at least 4 hours for something like that, even though this is not the craziest you could get with coterminals (I've done SFO-OAK as a coterminal myself on award, which is easier than what you propose BY FAR, straight shot on BART across the Bay). The time I flew into NRT and out of HND was on a stopover (so I spent a couple of days in Tokyo).
This is more like EWR->JFK (through a huge metropolis with potential for traffic) than SFO->OAK or even JFK->LGA. It can be done but oof.
https://www.limousinebus.co.jp/en/bu...airport_route/
http://www.haneda-airport.jp/inter/e...s/traffic.html
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Feb 13, 2017 at 4:33 pm
Feb 13, 2017, 5:59 pm
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Take advantage of the tokyo stop-over
Search for SIN-HND and NRT-YVR separately on a one way search.
Then Multi City search using the dates found
SIN-HND
NRT-YVR
Search for SIN-HND and NRT-YVR separately on a one way search.
Then Multi City search using the dates found
SIN-HND
NRT-YVR
Feb 13, 2017, 6:10 pm
#57
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This seems to work. Thanks! ^
Feb 15, 2017, 2:11 pm
#58
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PE being priced as Business Class
I've been trying to book tickets for a JFK-NRT/HND for travel in September/October and Alaska is only showing Economy and Business tickets available. The Business Class tickets show as Mixed cabin, even though it is a direct flight, and the actual cabin priced out is Premium Economy. I've seen some other people in this post have experienced this problem. Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?
Thanks,
Jason
Feb 15, 2017, 2:45 pm
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Feb 15, 2017, 10:21 pm
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Hi All,
I've been trying to book tickets for a JFK-NRT/HND for travel in September/October and Alaska is only showing Economy and Business tickets available. The Business Class tickets show as Mixed cabin, even though it is a direct flight, and the actual cabin priced out is Premium Economy. I've seen some other people in this post have experienced this problem. Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?
Thanks,
Jason
I've been trying to book tickets for a JFK-NRT/HND for travel in September/October and Alaska is only showing Economy and Business tickets available. The Business Class tickets show as Mixed cabin, even though it is a direct flight, and the actual cabin priced out is Premium Economy. I've seen some other people in this post have experienced this problem. Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?
Thanks,
Jason