Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Mar 7, 2018, 7:58 pm
#301
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Chicago
Posts: 17
I've been monitoring JAL F award closely for about 2 months. In the past usually availability was pretty good T-14. But since about this week, I noticed there's almost 0 F availability all the way to T-14 (from today to Mar 21st for example only one day has F available). I verified using BA site and Alaska site. Has anyone noticed the same? I suspect JAL is blocking or refusing to release F award for mid-late march because of the cherry blossom. I also noticed the business class has been consistently full (or close to full) coming in to mid-late march. Could that be the reason as well?
I currently have 2 J awards ticketed, hoping to upgrade to F. I will keep checking but would appreciate any insights!
I currently have 2 J awards ticketed, hoping to upgrade to F. I will keep checking but would appreciate any insights!
Mar 16, 2018, 12:45 am
#302
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
I am looking to use AS miles for 2 First Class awards on JL (Tokyo to Chicago) next January. First time with this, so will appreciate any help advice from the experienced members of this forum.
Basically the problem is that only one FC award is available! There are plenty of Business seats (certainly 2+). So, my options are:
(1) Book two business class awards now, wait to see if 2 FC open up.
(2) Grab the one FC now, book the other in Business; keep watching if 1 FC opens up later.
I guess, option (2) increases the chance of both ending up in FC, but also carries a non-zero chance that we fly in separate cabins.
What would the JL-watchers among you advise?
Basically the problem is that only one FC award is available! There are plenty of Business seats (certainly 2+). So, my options are:
(1) Book two business class awards now, wait to see if 2 FC open up.
(2) Grab the one FC now, book the other in Business; keep watching if 1 FC opens up later.
I guess, option (2) increases the chance of both ending up in FC, but also carries a non-zero chance that we fly in separate cabins.
What would the JL-watchers among you advise?
Mar 16, 2018, 1:14 am
#303
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: FAI
Programs: AS MVP Gold100K, AS 1MM, Maika`i Card, AGR, HH Gold, Hertz PC, Marriott Titanium LTG, CO, 7H, BA, 8E
Posts: 42,953
I'd do number 2.
Mar 16, 2018, 6:50 pm
#304
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: AS MVP, BA
Posts: 300
So I am looking to book two J tix from ANC->TYO departing ANC 9/27. I can book to F tix from ANC to LAX and then Y ticket from LAX to HND for 60k miles. If J availability opens up two weeks before the flight will I be able to upgrade for 0 miles and a $125 change fee?
Mar 16, 2018, 7:21 pm
#305
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Should be correct on mileage. If routing and flights are the same, afaik there should not be a change fee.
Mar 19, 2018, 1:48 am
#306
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,082
Quick question, does JL typically release F seats at T-330 days? Or only close in?
Also, do they typically release or more than 1 seat?
Lastly, is the AS site reliable in displaying available seats? Or is it better to use BA to check?
Also, do they typically release or more than 1 seat?
Lastly, is the AS site reliable in displaying available seats? Or is it better to use BA to check?
Last edited by pentiumvi; Mar 19, 2018 at 2:01 am
Mar 19, 2018, 11:20 am
#307
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
They can release more than one. Long range availability shows up on the AS website around T-325 according to posts upthread and mirrors what I see when searching. Obviously between T-330 & T-325 that space can be grabbed by other programs.
Mar 21, 2018, 7:09 am
#308
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 109
I know AS allows pretty liberal routing, we are planning on doing RT in First on JL. Would this work:
one way from SFO-HRD (stopover)—-BKK
one way from BKK-NRT-SIN (stopover)—-HRD—SFO?
i know you cant double back to the same airport, but what about two seperate airports in the same city?
one way from SFO-HRD (stopover)—-BKK
one way from BKK-NRT-SIN (stopover)—-HRD—SFO?
i know you cant double back to the same airport, but what about two seperate airports in the same city?
Mar 21, 2018, 7:23 am
#309
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
I know AS allows pretty liberal routing, we are planning on doing RT in First on JL. Would this work:
one way from SFO-HRD (stopover)—-BKK
one way from BKK-NRT-SIN (stopover)—-HRD—SFO?
i know you cant double back to the same airport, but what about two seperate airports in the same city?
one way from SFO-HRD (stopover)—-BKK
one way from BKK-NRT-SIN (stopover)—-HRD—SFO?
i know you cant double back to the same airport, but what about two seperate airports in the same city?
Mar 21, 2018, 2:53 pm
#310
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
Priced as two awards: BKK-NRT-SIN, SIN-HND-SFO as mentioned. You have a better option if you want to go in J from BKK to SIN and skip about 5,000 miles of extra flying in and out of NRT though.
Agreed. OP could easily fly CX J BKK-SIN for 15k BA Avios a head, however (even less if OP is willing to part with a modest amount of cash- Avios allows inbound transfers from Amex and Chase). CX regional J is nothing special but for a two hour daytime flight it's fine. And unless this is the "crazy FlyerTalker" routing where people can't get enough of airplanes for some unfathomable reason, a nonstop BKK-SIN is much preferred.
Mar 22, 2018, 9:43 pm
#311
formerly mattrendell27
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: DFW
Posts: 162
one person not completing trip on two person PNR
So my wife and I are going to Japan on JAL booked with AS miles. We booked 2 one way awards DFW-NRT-HKG with 12 day stopover in NRT and we are both on the same PNR. My wife is actually going to have to go back to the States early now and we're gonna cancel her flight back from HKG-DFW (separate award on CX) and just book something different NRT-DFW.
So at this point I'm thinking we'll both just fly DFW-NRT and then she just won't fly the NRT-HKG leg but I will. Will I have any problems at NRT if she no shows for the NRT-HKG leg and I intend to fly that leg? I can't think of any reason why this would be problematic but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
So at this point I'm thinking we'll both just fly DFW-NRT and then she just won't fly the NRT-HKG leg but I will. Will I have any problems at NRT if she no shows for the NRT-HKG leg and I intend to fly that leg? I can't think of any reason why this would be problematic but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
Mar 23, 2018, 12:28 am
#312
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So my wife and I are going to Japan on JAL booked with AS miles. We booked 2 one way awards DFW-NRT-HKG with 12 day stopover in NRT and we are both on the same PNR. My wife is actually going to have to go back to the States early now and we're gonna cancel her flight back from HKG-DFW (separate award on CX) and just book something different NRT-DFW.
So at this point I'm thinking we'll both just fly DFW-NRT and then she just won't fly the NRT-HKG leg but I will. Will I have any problems at NRT if she no shows for the NRT-HKG leg and I intend to fly that leg? I can't think of any reason why this would be problematic but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
So at this point I'm thinking we'll both just fly DFW-NRT and then she just won't fly the NRT-HKG leg but I will. Will I have any problems at NRT if she no shows for the NRT-HKG leg and I intend to fly that leg? I can't think of any reason why this would be problematic but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
Mar 23, 2018, 1:54 pm
#313
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
So at this point I'm thinking we'll both just fly DFW-NRT and then she just won't fly the NRT-HKG leg but I will. Will I have any problems at NRT if she no shows for the NRT-HKG leg and I intend to fly that leg? I can't think of any reason why this would be problematic but I wanted to be sure. Thanks
Mar 23, 2018, 6:03 pm
#314
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 57
JAL Awards not showing up in Mileage Plan Online?
Hi all...I usually have no issues booking partner awards through Mileage plan once they become available on JAL. For instance, just under 330 days out..i see wide open availability for my desired flights on JAL's search, but Alaska doesn't see it at all. I've not had this issue before, so am wondering if something has changed with the Alaska/JAL partnership.
Anyone else having this problem? Is there any pattern to when available JAL awards become available on Alaska?
Thanks
Anyone else having this problem? Is there any pattern to when available JAL awards become available on Alaska?
Thanks
Mar 23, 2018, 6:13 pm
#315
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