Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Jan 14, 2019, 1:54 pm
#586
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 480
Sure does sound interesting...but guess I was just shortening Tokyo rather than typing out HND or NRT. Makes no difference which one I fly to.
Jan 14, 2019, 2:10 pm
#587
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TYO is the IATA code for Tokyo. Searching for it using the AS award engine will show both NRT and HND flights. I don't know if the calendar handles TYO as opposed to NRT or HND (as I recall it doesn't).
Jan 14, 2019, 2:13 pm
#588
Join Date: Dec 2008
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 669
Has anyone had any luck ordering special meals in F on JL? My wife is allergic to seafood (but not most fish). I’ve noticed a lot of the menus are quite diverse in types of food, so I’d like to do a special meal but also hope the quality is still good.
Jan 14, 2019, 2:26 pm
#589
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Between SFO and STS
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold, United Serf, Delta Gold
Posts: 731
I couldn't find a way to do it online in December for my wife (gluten). On the plane though, the FAs made it seem like there is definitely a way to order special meals. IIRC they said to call in if the website doesn't have the option to select a special meal.
Jan 15, 2019, 11:46 am
#590
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: IHG Platinum Elite, AS MVP Gold 75K, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 219
I booked about 6 months ago for a friend of mine and had to call JAL directly for that. It was booked through AA, but not even AA could successfully store it.
Jan 16, 2019, 1:12 pm
#591
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Secured a tasty Japanese meal for today's flight JL9
Apparently the regional flights were not able to be reserved however. As they called me back apologizing for not keeping my request HND-SIN.
Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 pm
#592
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: LHR, DFW, J Cabins WorldWide
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, FB Gold, AS MVPG, MR Titanium, VS Gold
Posts: 954
Glad you got an F award across the pacific. I've got a very similar route coming up that I'm trying to book. Curious, did you book it online or did you call over the phone? When I try to look online, I see award availability from USA > TKO. Then searching a separate segment from TKO > HKG the calendar view of award search is a bit strange when looking for a J ticket. Almost as if the search doesn't recognize "partner business". Possibly this is why, if, you booked online you were ticketed in E and not J?
Jan 16, 2019, 5:40 pm
#593
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
If your NRT-HKG segment opens up in J you should be able to switch to J on that leg for no extra fee (other than difference in taxes). I had a Y-J mixed itin and when J opened up on the Y leg AS switched me to all J for difference in tax only. Agent said this is their policy. If you are already ticketed in a higher class cabin you can switch lower class segments up in class for free if space becomes available. Note, this is not the same as upgrading from all Y to J or F which would be a chargeable change if you do not have an elite fee waiver.
Jan 16, 2019, 11:22 pm
#594
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 480
If your NRT-HKG segment opens up in J you should be able to switch to J on that leg for no extra fee (other than difference in taxes). I had a Y-J mixed itin and when J opened up on the Y leg AS switched me to all J for difference in tax only. Agent said this is their policy. If you are already ticketed in a higher class cabin you can switch lower class segments up in class for free if space becomes available. Note, this is not the same as upgrading from all Y to J or F which would be a chargeable change if you do not have an elite fee waiver.
Jan 16, 2019, 11:29 pm
#595
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: LHR, DFW, J Cabins WorldWide
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, FB Gold, AS MVPG, MR Titanium, VS Gold
Posts: 954
If your NRT-HKG segment opens up in J you should be able to switch to J on that leg for no extra fee (other than difference in taxes). I had a Y-J mixed itin and when J opened up on the Y leg AS switched me to all J for difference in tax only. Agent said this is their policy. If you are already ticketed in a higher class cabin you can switch lower class segments up in class for free if space becomes available. Note, this is not the same as upgrading from all Y to J or F which would be a chargeable change if you do not have an elite fee waiver.
I did manage to grab a F seat on UA's old GF 772 on the way back also via narita, so technically I will at least have a "F seat" for borh TPACs this RT lol.
Jan 16, 2019, 11:50 pm
#596
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
I haven't found any reference to it on the AS site at all, so yeah, that appears to be the case. Happened for me just in November.
Jan 17, 2019, 12:51 am
#597
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
I found CX J space on Jan 24th to the West coast but the timing didn't work. I was, however, able to book a JL J/F award today HKG-PVR with a 2 month stopover domestically with onward travel (2 segments) in Saver A on the longer route, W on the shorter. Premium Seat selected and waitlisted for F. 
James
James
Jan 17, 2019, 7:21 am
#598
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Yes. I paid no change fee to do this on a JL itin. I do not know if it is published but the agent who did it for me did it without me asking and said it was AS policy. I was prepared to pay a change fee but the agent said it did not apply per their policy.
Jan 17, 2019, 8:27 am
#599
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You’ve already paid for the J seat; you’re not actually making a change, rather just waiting for availability in your cabin you already paid for.
Jan 17, 2019, 6:22 pm
#600
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my first try at booking JL F with AS miles .... AS calendar seems to be one day behind JL award release calendar. But even then, the space seen by AS is seriously off compared to what BA and JL searches show (calling doesn't help, the agents seem to see exactly what AS search engine sees). AS sees NOTHING when there's 2 J seats available.
I've booked JL F and CX F with AA miles, and CX F with AS miles, they always saw what BA and JL search sees. Never had this kind of availability difference before.
Do others have similar experience?
I've booked JL F and CX F with AA miles, and CX F with AS miles, they always saw what BA and JL search sees. Never had this kind of availability difference before.
Do others have similar experience?
