Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
May 1, 2018, 4:18 pm
#346
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
May 1, 2018, 6:52 pm
#347
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I see quite a bit of availability US-Japan on the BA site but none on the AS site. Looks like a block to me.
May 1, 2018, 7:39 pm
#348
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
Mea culpa! I checked with BA, and the Y availability I was seeing on a specific flight is there.
May 1, 2018, 8:19 pm
#349
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 42
Still seeing some Intra-Asia availability.
Wonder whats up?
May 1, 2018, 8:26 pm
#350
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: NH, JL, SQ
Posts: 164
same here, alaska not showing any US-Japan availability at all. despite BA's website showing lots of availability
May 1, 2018, 8:27 pm
#351
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
i have been watching very closely the last few weeks as I am in the midst of a booking. As of today (May 1) seems like a lot (if not all) availability from North American to Japan is gone and no longer appearing on the AS website. Flights I have watched for weeks have disappeared.
Still seeing some Intra-Asia availability.
Wonder whats up?
May 1, 2018, 8:56 pm
#352
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: HNL <-> BOS
Posts: 382
Just double checking, is doing SFO-HND/stopover/NRT-BKK valid for a single award? Currently have a SFO-HND/stopover/HND-BKK award but wanted to change to the NRT-BKK. Agent could see availability just fine like BA search but her and the supervisor said it wouldn't let them do the change because I'm flying in and out of two different airports.
Going to HUACA tomorrow but just wanted to double check here first.
Going to HUACA tomorrow but just wanted to double check here first.
May 1, 2018, 9:04 pm
#353
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Just double checking, is doing SFO-HND/stopover/NRT-BKK valid for a single award? Currently have a SFO-HND/stopover/HND-BKK award but wanted to change to the NRT-BKK. Agent could see availability just fine like BA search but her and the supervisor said it wouldn't let them do the change because I'm flying in and out of two different airports.
Going to HUACA tomorrow but just wanted to double check here first.
Going to HUACA tomorrow but just wanted to double check here first.
May 1, 2018, 9:17 pm
#354
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: HNL <-> BOS
Posts: 382
Yes, HND and NRT are allowed co-terminals under TYO, provided the minimum connect time is met. If you can find the space (due to the problems above), you should be able to recreate it yourself in a dummy booking even if it's a Y award. If it doesn't show AAA-HND/NRT-DDD, use multicity and it should show up.
May 1, 2018, 9:22 pm
#355
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 42
Uh oh!
Coincidental - May 1st and everything ex-N/A is gone? I am hoping it’s just a glitch! I am halfway thru a booking with a mix of Biz and Economy for 3 people.
May 2, 2018, 9:17 pm
#356
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 981
I was looking as well because I am about to do a nights and flights package and wanted to make sure it was worth putting my miles into Alaska and was disappointed in the complete lack of JAL awards
May 3, 2018, 12:21 am
#357
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
If you are considering transferring miles to AS or purchasing miles from AS for the purpose of booking US JAL awards you should hold off until they restore the ability to search and book JAL awards otherwise you will be very disappointed.
May 10, 2018, 9:27 pm
#358
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SJC, LAX, TPE
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 195
Use of business class lounges depends on cabin of departure flight, and also OW status. If you use CX J to Taipei, then of course you can use the Pier Lounge business class section.
But, I suggest you instead save your miles and fly JFK-Tokyo-Taipei (TSA or TPE) on JAL on one Alaska award.
Alternatively, I suggest you fly JFK/EWR-HKG-Taipei (TPE) on Cathay on one Alaska award.
You could even stretch it and utilize the Cathay HKG-TPE-NRT flight, and actually book
JFK/EWR-HKG (transit HKG <24 hours)-TPE (layover in Taiwan of a few days/weeks/months) - NRT(destination)
all on Cathay on one Alaska award.
e.g.
CX 841 JFK 10:00 HKG 14:00 +1 --->CX 430 HKG 13:35 +2 TPE 15:35 +2 (23hrs 23 minute transit in HKG)
after a long layover of days/weeks/months
either CX 450 TPE 13:00 NRT 17:20 or CX 522 TPE 16:15 NRT 20:35
Keep hunting for the first class award space, especially JFK/EWR-HKG.
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If you insist on stopping in both Tokyo and Hong Kong ( >24 hours), then you will need separate awards, since you cannot mix two Alaska partners (JAL and Cathay).
BA Avios are very useful for this short flight (CX J to Taipei). But, you have to book early since BA blocks last minute Cathay award bookings.
There are actually 5 Cathay business lounges in HKG, so you can do a lounge tour! (I did it last February, a glass of Moet champagne in all business class lounges) The Wing, Pier, Bridge, Cabin, and the new Deck, plus the Qantas lounge (nothing positive about the Qantas lounge)
But, I suggest you instead save your miles and fly JFK-Tokyo-Taipei (TSA or TPE) on JAL on one Alaska award.
Alternatively, I suggest you fly JFK/EWR-HKG-Taipei (TPE) on Cathay on one Alaska award.
You could even stretch it and utilize the Cathay HKG-TPE-NRT flight, and actually book
JFK/EWR-HKG (transit HKG <24 hours)-TPE (layover in Taiwan of a few days/weeks/months) - NRT(destination)
all on Cathay on one Alaska award.
e.g.
CX 841 JFK 10:00 HKG 14:00 +1 --->CX 430 HKG 13:35 +2 TPE 15:35 +2 (23hrs 23 minute transit in HKG)
after a long layover of days/weeks/months
either CX 450 TPE 13:00 NRT 17:20 or CX 522 TPE 16:15 NRT 20:35
Keep hunting for the first class award space, especially JFK/EWR-HKG.
====
If you insist on stopping in both Tokyo and Hong Kong ( >24 hours), then you will need separate awards, since you cannot mix two Alaska partners (JAL and Cathay).
BA Avios are very useful for this short flight (CX J to Taipei). But, you have to book early since BA blocks last minute Cathay award bookings.
There are actually 5 Cathay business lounges in HKG, so you can do a lounge tour! (I did it last February, a glass of Moet champagne in all business class lounges) The Wing, Pier, Bridge, Cabin, and the new Deck, plus the Qantas lounge (nothing positive about the Qantas lounge)
Thank you so much for your input.
I have no status with OW. I thought I can use the F lounges in HKG if arriving on F and departing in J (or anything in OneWorld). Last year I flew HND-HKG in CX F, and then onwards to Dubai DXB in J, and I was able to enjoy the Pier and the Wing First. Please correct me if I am wrong lol. And yes, I am using Avios to book CX to Taipei for 9000. Bangkok was the same too.
The Cabin is closed btw after they opened The Deck. I've been to all the lounges you listed except the newly opened The Deck and the Qantas Lounge. Been to Pier Business and Bridge 10x times but only been to the F lounges twice. So my focus will be on the Wing and Pier this time.
May 11, 2018, 7:43 am
#359
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Thank you so much for your input.
I have no status with OW. I thought I can use the F lounges in HKG if arriving on F and departing in J (or anything in OneWorld). Last year I flew HND-HKG in CX F, and then onwards to Dubai DXB in J, and I was able to enjoy the Pier and the Wing First. Please correct me if I am wrong lol. And yes, I am using Avios to book CX to Taipei for 9000. Bangkok was the same too.
The Cabin is closed btw after they opened The Deck. I've been to all the lounges you listed except the newly opened The Deck and the Qantas Lounge. Been to Pier Business and Bridge 10x times but only been to the F lounges twice. So my focus will be on the Wing and Pier this time.
I have no status with OW. I thought I can use the F lounges in HKG if arriving on F and departing in J (or anything in OneWorld). Last year I flew HND-HKG in CX F, and then onwards to Dubai DXB in J, and I was able to enjoy the Pier and the Wing First. Please correct me if I am wrong lol. And yes, I am using Avios to book CX to Taipei for 9000. Bangkok was the same too.
The Cabin is closed btw after they opened The Deck. I've been to all the lounges you listed except the newly opened The Deck and the Qantas Lounge. Been to Pier Business and Bridge 10x times but only been to the F lounges twice. So my focus will be on the Wing and Pier this time.
May 12, 2018, 1:22 pm
#360
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 89
AS, JL rewards newbie seeking assistance please (and I apologize in advance for not knowing codes, etc): I've been collecting AS miles in hopes of ultimately using them to fly JL business class to Tokyo. However, it seems no matter what dates I enter (at this point more for research), I can't find any business award availability. Those I do find are "mixed class", with the domestic portion in business, and the international portion in economy.
And why is it that if I want to travel from LAX, it has me connecting first to ORD or DFW, so then if I search leaving from ORD or DFW, it has me connecting, say, to LAX (again, in mixed classes)?? Very confused.
And why is it that if I want to travel from LAX, it has me connecting first to ORD or DFW, so then if I search leaving from ORD or DFW, it has me connecting, say, to LAX (again, in mixed classes)?? Very confused.