Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Oct 6, 2019, 1:26 pm
#1081
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
James
Oct 6, 2019, 5:25 pm
#1083
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I just encountered a head-scratcher with the AS website.
I'm looking at a potential SIN-SFO booking in J so I enter that in and get these results:
So being greedy, I see that if I leave on the 21st instead, F is available from HND-SFO, but only coach is offered SIN-HND. So what if I check for the 21st?
Hey...where's my F seat? Is there really no J seat to HND on the 21st?
Computer says "yes"! So if I check HND-SFO my F seat should be there, right?
Computer says "no". Okay, what if I search using multi-city?
This is only a potential trip so I'm only amused at this point - I'd be perfectly happy with the 20th in J all the way.
I'm looking at a potential SIN-SFO booking in J so I enter that in and get these results:
So being greedy, I see that if I leave on the 21st instead, F is available from HND-SFO, but only coach is offered SIN-HND. So what if I check for the 21st?
Hey...where's my F seat? Is there really no J seat to HND on the 21st?
Computer says "yes"! So if I check HND-SFO my F seat should be there, right?
Computer says "no". Okay, what if I search using multi-city?
This is only a potential trip so I'm only amused at this point - I'd be perfectly happy with the 20th in J all the way.
Of course, if you really wanted the 21st there is CX F available for 5k less than JL.
Oct 6, 2019, 7:23 pm
#1084
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It would seem odd to see a married segment not have availability when both segments on their own did.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Oct 6, 2019 at 9:15 pm
Oct 6, 2019, 8:28 pm
#1085
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG 75K, BA Silver, AC, AF/KL, AV, VS | Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 459
When I looked on AS this morning JL F HKG-SFO on May 21st wasn't available either. It is possible that inventory decreassed to zero between the time the segments were being searched and thrme through fare was queried.
It would seem odd to see a married segment not have availability when both segments on their own did.
James
It would seem odd to see a married segment not have availability when both segments on their own did.
James
I ended up using the multi-city search for another day closer to what I really need and was able to get J to HND, then F to SFO, and then even F home to PDX. Searching for SIN-PDX only offered up all segments in Y or J via YVR (on a 767...). So strange.
I don't ask why, I just ask often.
Oct 11, 2019, 4:27 am
#1086
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 612
Where’s the availability?
Anybody notice a change in availability? We’re flying to Asia in a couple weeks and for months have been monitoring MNL-JFK via Tokyo on JL. 2 days before current day there’s almost always 2 seats in biz or first. Now that Singapore is online can’t find any JL biz or first. Any thoughts?
Oct 11, 2019, 4:44 am
#1087
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,160
Anybody notice a change in availability? We’re flying to Asia in a couple weeks and for months have been monitoring MNL-JFK via Tokyo on JL. 2 days before current day there’s almost always 2 seats in biz or first. Now that Singapore is online can’t find any JL biz or first. Any thoughts?
Oct 12, 2019, 8:28 pm
#1089
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
This happens all the time and it’s really frustrating. And when I bring it to the agents attention they tell me all the availability must’ve gone away. And then I say OK then search this segment piece by piece and when they do they see what I’m talking about and it is available, then they figure something out. But that’s the only way I’ve been able to get around this hiccup on the website.
Oct 12, 2019, 10:28 pm
#1090
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,454
I don't think I've ever seen such dynamic inventory as JL on AS. It's literally worthwhile to check multiple times per day. I scored F SFO-HND last night while sitting on a UA 739 at SFO.
Oct 13, 2019, 12:42 pm
#1091
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG 75K, BA Silver, AC, AF/KL, AV, VS | Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 459
You are not kidding! I have a trip planned to Tokyo next month so I keep checking for an F seat several times per day and it's remarkable how J seats appear and disappear from the West Coast gateways. It's like whac-a-mole some days.
Oct 13, 2019, 9:52 pm
#1092
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 18
Hi All,
At the time of this posting, it is Oct 13, 2019
I want to fly SEA to NRT non-stop in business class on or near 01/13/2020 using Alaska Airlines points. One passenger.
Currently there is no availability, but I assume some will pop up.
Which days may I expect JAL to release inventory to Alaska bookings? I'd like to be ready to take immediate action and grab it up.
Thank you!
At the time of this posting, it is Oct 13, 2019
I want to fly SEA to NRT non-stop in business class on or near 01/13/2020 using Alaska Airlines points. One passenger.
Currently there is no availability, but I assume some will pop up.
Which days may I expect JAL to release inventory to Alaska bookings? I'd like to be ready to take immediate action and grab it up.
Thank you!
Oct 14, 2019, 12:57 am
#1093
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: SFO
Posts: 32
If I book biz class on JAL using AS points now, can I upgrade to F with AS points later on if inventory comes available (i.e. if it appears T-14)?
Oct 14, 2019, 1:07 am
#1094
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: NZ
Posts: 1,554
Yes. Unless you have MVPG or MVPG75 elite status you will have to pay the $125 change fee. For MVPG and MVPG75 members the change fee is waived.
Oct 14, 2019, 9:02 am
#1095
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,454