Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
May 7, 2019, 10:19 pm
#856
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS - MVP75k, Marriott - Titanium, Hertz - PC
Posts: 225
Definitely 4F
This is for a connection - assume married segment so I'm only looking for end to end availability, not each segment. You're right though, double checking on Qantas does not show the seats available (I only want 2).
This is for a connection - assume married segment so I'm only looking for end to end availability, not each segment. You're right though, double checking on Qantas does not show the seats available (I only want 2).
May 8, 2019, 6:08 am
#857
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
I looked at the date where its showing F4 as SFO > BKK and there are actually no seats in F SFO > HND which seems to match what you are seeing on QF
Last edited by CDKing; May 8, 2019 at 6:18 am
May 8, 2019, 6:54 am
#858
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS - MVP75k, Marriott - Titanium, Hertz - PC
Posts: 225
Thank you. I've done this several times before but I wasn't sure if I should look segment by segment or for the whole itinerary due to the move to what appears to be a married segment logic.
May 8, 2019, 10:29 am
#859
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
So I think for your journey SFO-TYO-BKK that the Alaska website would by default search individual segments which is good since AS can book this when AA may not be able to if there is no married segment availability. And, I believe (for flights inside the window that Alaska can book) if QF shows married segment availability but AlaskaAir.com does not show it that you can call an Alaska partner agent and ask them to check availability for the complete journey (married segment check) and book it that way, so the best of both worlds.
ETA:
Also, keep in mind you have an advantage when booking with AS miles. You can get a free stopover. You may not be interested in a free stopover but this can sometimes provide you with availability that other programs cannot book. For example (made up availability), say SFO-HND ha 2F on 8/1, no availability HND-BKK 8/2 or 8/3 but there may be 2J on 8/4. You could book this as a multicity journey with a stopover in TYO until 8/4 on the AS website for 75k, the same as the price without a stopover whereas someone booking through another program would not be able to book without spending significantly more miles.
Last edited by skimthetrees; May 8, 2019 at 10:40 am
May 9, 2019, 11:44 am
#860
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: United, AA, KrisFlyer
Posts: 179
JAL Award Availability
I can see a JAL flight available for redemption on the British Airways site, but not on the Alaska site. Is the inventory of seats different for different airlines?
May 9, 2019, 11:47 am
#861
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,389
Lots of discussion in the Consolidated JAL awards thread (conveniently located on the first page of the Alaska Airlines forum)
BA allows bookings 355 days out. AS 330 only (and you have to work around problems at end of schedule, again, discussed in the thread).
BA allows bookings 355 days out. AS 330 only (and you have to work around problems at end of schedule, again, discussed in the thread).
Last edited by eponymous_coward; May 10, 2019 at 9:05 am Reason: Removed circular thread reference
May 10, 2019, 3:53 am
#862
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: krisflyer
Posts: 135
Looking to fly from SEA/SFO to NRT on 24/25/26th June on J. Saw some availability few days ago but missed my shot. It's about 1.5months away, do JAL tend to release more seats closer to date? (I'll be booking them through AS)
Also don't know if I should purchase AS miles to standby for it given it'so only a month away and I won't be redeeming it for other flights anytime soon.
Also don't know if I should purchase AS miles to standby for it given it'so only a month away and I won't be redeeming it for other flights anytime soon.
Last edited by makrxx; May 10, 2019 at 4:13 am
May 10, 2019, 5:14 am
#863
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,160
Looking to fly from SEA/SFO to NRT on 24/25/26th June on J. Saw some availability few days ago but missed my shot. It's about 1.5months away, do JAL tend to release more seats closer to date? (I'll be booking them through AS)
Also don't know if I should purchase AS miles to standby for it given it'so only a month away and I won't be redeeming it for other flights anytime soon.
Also don't know if I should purchase AS miles to standby for it given it'so only a month away and I won't be redeeming it for other flights anytime soon.
Whether you should buy now depends mainly on whether you can hold an AS award until you get the purchase of the miles completed, but you'd have to ask in the AS forum for that.
May 10, 2019, 9:06 am
#864
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,389
AS doesn’t do award holds. You either have the miles to ticket or you don’t get the award until you do.
May 10, 2019, 3:07 pm
#865
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: AS MVPG100, Hyatt Globalist, MGM Gold, Caesars Diamond
Posts: 636
FYI Good F on JAL LAX to NRT available for 2 next couple days.
May 11, 2019, 6:31 am
#866
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 75
Just booked one J ticket SIN-NRT-PVG-KIX using the AS website! The routing is ridiculous so will have a full day flying, in three different aircrafts, in and out of Japan. Already cover the first half of the journey using Asia Miles and will spend a week in Southeast Asia.
May 11, 2019, 6:44 am
#867
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Just booked one J ticket SIN-NRT-PVG-KIX using the AS website! The routing is ridiculous so will have a full day flying, in three different aircrafts, in and out of Japan. Already cover the first half of the journey using Asia Miles and will spend a week in Southeast Asia.
May 12, 2019, 2:46 am
#869
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: krisflyer
Posts: 135
Difficult to say. They may release additonal availability close to departure, but there is no fixed schedule and depends on bookings levels. Also, any availability may be taken by JMB members on wait list for upgrades.
Whether you should buy now depends mainly on whether you can hold an AS award until you get the purchase of the miles completed, but you'd have to ask in the AS forum for that.
Whether you should buy now depends mainly on whether you can hold an AS award until you get the purchase of the miles completed, but you'd have to ask in the AS forum for that.
About 35 days away...fingers crossed.
On another note, when I search LAX-TYO, some days I've seen them display results for LAX - NRT/HND, LAX - SFO - NRT/HND or LAX - SEA - NRT/HND...some days it's 1 or the other. In the event that when I search a 1 way SEA/SFO/LAX to NRT/HND and it shows it being available, but not when I search LAX - SIN (so it dosen't show the indirect route), can I call AS reservations to book it in for me at no extra cost?
May 12, 2019, 11:37 am
#870
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Thanks both. I might just take a risk and buy the AS miles so I'll have enough to book it right away when the time comes. I looked on Expertflyer and still a number of seats available for 24/25/26th from SEA/SFO/LAX to NRT/HND.
About 35 days away...fingers crossed.
On another note, when I search LAX-TYO, some days I've seen them display results for LAX - NRT/HND, LAX - SFO - NRT/HND or LAX - SEA - NRT/HND...some days it's 1 or the other. In the event that when I search a 1 way SEA/SFO/LAX to NRT/HND and it shows it being available, but not when I search LAX - SIN (so it dosen't show the indirect route), can I call AS reservations to book it in for me at no extra cost?
About 35 days away...fingers crossed.
On another note, when I search LAX-TYO, some days I've seen them display results for LAX - NRT/HND, LAX - SFO - NRT/HND or LAX - SEA - NRT/HND...some days it's 1 or the other. In the event that when I search a 1 way SEA/SFO/LAX to NRT/HND and it shows it being available, but not when I search LAX - SIN (so it dosen't show the indirect route), can I call AS reservations to book it in for me at no extra cost?
I am not clear on your last question. You are only traveling to TYO, correct? What does SIN have to do with it? LAX-SIN may not show because the search engine can have trouble with overnight connections. If you are looking for an overnight connection that is not showing you can try plugging the two segments into the multi-city search.