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Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier

Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier

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Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)

All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport

Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip

U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000

U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000

Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000


International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK

USA

Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA

Canada
Vancouver - YVR

Asia

Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN


Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
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Old Feb 11, 17, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by Finkface View Post
A similar experience here. I booked an F seat the other day. Twice after payment, it hung and hung and finally errored out, saying partner space could not be confirmed. I was just about to call, as BA was showing the seat available, when I tried it one more time. Third time lucky, I guess, as it went through and ticketed immediately.
I'm shocked I even saw F space award. Maybe JFK just never has F (*EDIT* guess i lied just saw some F from JFK close in)

I wouldn't have even known F existed if it were't for this post (since i had to look):

Originally Posted by skimthetrees View Post
For example, currently on 2/19 TYO-SFO BA is showing 4 PE seats available but when I do a search for 2 seats on the AS site no PE seats are showing. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Old Feb 11, 17, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by tth6133 View Post
These are the easiest J seats to get since they are not the most desirable type.
This was a response in Post #12, to someone who booked J seats flying into Tokyo and out of Osaka.

Can you explain why these seats in J are less desirable? Is it the type of aircraft or the way JL configures them?

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Old Feb 11, 17, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by enzian View Post
This was a response in Post #12, to someone who booked J seats flying into Tokyo and out of Osaka.

Can you explain why these seats in J are less desirable? Is it the type of aircraft or the way JL configures them?
not lieflat J, angled-flat

i believe ex-YVR uses this version of J
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ja...es_787-800.php
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servic...llflatneo.html

the better routes use sky suites aka lieflat (all seats have aisle access - hard to get out of middle/window seat if you're wider than normal)
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ja..._787-800_B.php
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servic.../skysuite.html
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Old Feb 12, 17, 8:45 am
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Thanks. What are the gateway cities on the West Coast for flying to either Osaka or Tokyo? We don't mind traveling down to SFO, LAX, or other city if they offer better flight choices than YVR.
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Old Feb 12, 17, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by enzian View Post
Thanks. What are the gateway cities on the West Coast for flying to either Osaka or Tokyo? We don't mind traveling down to SFO, LAX, or other city if they offer better flight choices than YVR.

For non-stop

SAN, LAX, YVR to NRT

SFO to NRT/HND

LAX to Osaka
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Old Feb 12, 17, 10:28 am
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Anyone else noticing that Mainland China is pricing as SE Asia?

I was trying to put together a better list of Asian destinations but only the following are supposed to qualify as SE Asia

Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Thailand, Philippines, and Cambodia
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Old Feb 12, 17, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by CDKing View Post
For non-stop

SAN, LAX, YVR to NRT

SFO to NRT/HND

LAX to Osaka
Thanks! And which of those routes offer the better J product?

SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
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Old Feb 12, 17, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by enzian View Post
Thanks! And which of those routes offer the better J product?

SFO and LAX are easiest for us as we have family to stay with if we want to stay overnight before the long-haul flight ( which we do by booking that segment separately so we don't get caught up in stopover restrictions).
The routes with the updated j are SFO to HND or DFW/LAX/ord to NRT. There are also flights out of Boston and New York with the updated j.

One thing to note for JAL is they tend to open up a ton of availability close in. You can always find some route if you're willing to book only two weeks before departure.
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Old Feb 13, 17, 4:23 pm
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Has anyone tried doing a NRT//HND connection? I'm aiming for SIN-HND//NRT-YVR as there's no availability on SIN-NRT.
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Old Feb 13, 17, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by SilverChris View Post
Has anyone tried doing a NRT//HND connection? I'm aiming for SIN-HND//NRT-YVR as there's no availability on SIN-NRT.
This is FlyerTalk, the answer to "has anyone done X" is probably "yes", even if it's crazy.

I'd want at least 4 hours for something like that, even though this is not the craziest you could get with coterminals (I've done SFO-OAK as a coterminal myself on award, which is easier than what you propose BY FAR, straight shot on BART across the Bay). The time I flew into NRT and out of HND was on a stopover (so I spent a couple of days in Tokyo).



This is more like EWR->JFK (through a huge metropolis with potential for traffic) than SFO->OAK or even JFK->LGA. It can be done but oof.

https://www.limousinebus.co.jp/en/bu...airport_route/

http://www.haneda-airport.jp/inter/e...s/traffic.html

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Old Feb 13, 17, 5:59 pm
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Take advantage of the tokyo stop-over

Search for SIN-HND and NRT-YVR separately on a one way search.

Then Multi City search using the dates found

SIN-HND
NRT-YVR
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Old Feb 13, 17, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward View Post
This is FlyerTalk, the answer to "has anyone done X" is probably "yes", even if it's crazy.
I should probably rephrase my question: has anyone booked such a connection with JL using AS miles?

Originally Posted by CDKing View Post
Take advantage of the tokyo stop-over

Search for SIN-HND and NRT-YVR separately on a one way search.

Then Multi City search using the dates found

SIN-HND
NRT-YVR
This seems to work. Thanks! ^
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Old Feb 15, 17, 2:11 pm
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PE being priced as Business Class

Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
same here

looks like a glitch... or alaska deval

i'm going to wait and see
Hi All,

I've been trying to book tickets for a JFK-NRT/HND for travel in September/October and Alaska is only showing Economy and Business tickets available. The Business Class tickets show as Mixed cabin, even though it is a direct flight, and the actual cabin priced out is Premium Economy. I've seen some other people in this post have experienced this problem. Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?

Thanks,
Jason
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Old Feb 15, 17, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jasongc87 View Post
Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?
Call them and report back. (I have not found getting a human on the phone at Alaska Airlines to be much of a task.)
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Old Feb 15, 17, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by jasongc87 View Post
Hi All,

I've been trying to book tickets for a JFK-NRT/HND for travel in September/October and Alaska is only showing Economy and Business tickets available. The Business Class tickets show as Mixed cabin, even though it is a direct flight, and the actual cabin priced out is Premium Economy. I've seen some other people in this post have experienced this problem. Has anyone been able to find a work around? Does calling the Alaska Partner Desk help at all?

Thanks,
Jason
Is the other flight on AS in F?
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