Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Mar 27, 2017, 2:19 pm
#136
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Doing JFK-NRT-KHH for 75,000 miles on JAL, Manual search there is availability for JFK-NRT in First, and then NRT to KHH in Business is wide open, but when I try to book it, it becomes First and Coach. Gross. Does anyone know if calling in gets around this insanely frustrating issue?
Mar 27, 2017, 3:39 pm
#137
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Does anyone know a fix to this problem as well?
Doing JFK-NRT-KHH for 75,000 miles on JAL, Manual search there is availability for JFK-NRT in First, and then NRT to KHH in Business is wide open, but when I try to book it, it becomes First and Coach. Gross. Does anyone know if calling in gets around this insanely frustrating issue?
Doing JFK-NRT-KHH for 75,000 miles on JAL, Manual search there is availability for JFK-NRT in First, and then NRT to KHH in Business is wide open, but when I try to book it, it becomes First and Coach. Gross. Does anyone know if calling in gets around this insanely frustrating issue?
I just found a date where F is available JFK-NRT and NRT-HKG in J. Try to book together the F leg only shows Y available. If i move the continuing leg a few days later when only Y is not available the F leg to NRT comes up.
Mar 27, 2017, 4:11 pm
#138
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Posts: 3,380
i hope they do phone/manual booking (like cx), instead of removing it entirely
Mar 28, 2017, 10:35 pm
#139
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Go home, alaskaair.com, you're drunk. "This itinerary is not entirely in First Class." Actually, how about "This itinerary is entirely not in First Class, even though we're charging 75k miles for it."
In fact, BKK-KIK and NRT-YVR don't even have F cabins... but I guess you might get upgraded on the YVR-SEA segment...
In fact, BKK-KIK and NRT-YVR don't even have F cabins... but I guess you might get upgraded on the YVR-SEA segment...
Mar 29, 2017, 7:23 pm
#140
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,303
I need help booking this award on JL w AS miles
I"m not able to get it to price properly, maybe it is not possible.
I'm trying to go from PVG-KIX-SFO.
with a stopover in KIX.
PVG-KIX(stopover) -HND-SFO would be the natural routing but the site seems to want me to route through LAX meaning there might not be direct flights into SFO from LX due to availability issues.
So what I did was I used multi city search i plugged in:
pvg-kix
kix-hnd
hnd-sfo. It would not display availability.
pvg-kix
kix-sfo.
It'd route me via LAX
The dates that i used all had availability via BA's site.
I am trying to avoid pricing a PVG-HND(stopover)-SFO As i'd have to pay for my own ticket whether it be a bus or via avios from the two airports+ the inconvenience of time and added cost.
See the attached screenshots.
Thanks
I"m not able to get it to price properly, maybe it is not possible.
I'm trying to go from PVG-KIX-SFO.
with a stopover in KIX.
PVG-KIX(stopover) -HND-SFO would be the natural routing but the site seems to want me to route through LAX meaning there might not be direct flights into SFO from LX due to availability issues.
So what I did was I used multi city search i plugged in:
pvg-kix
kix-hnd
hnd-sfo. It would not display availability.
pvg-kix
kix-sfo.
It'd route me via LAX
The dates that i used all had availability via BA's site.
I am trying to avoid pricing a PVG-HND(stopover)-SFO As i'd have to pay for my own ticket whether it be a bus or via avios from the two airports+ the inconvenience of time and added cost.
See the attached screenshots.
Thanks
Mar 29, 2017, 9:11 pm
#141
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
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I think the first multi city won't return any results because it won't allow two layovers in Japan. I'm not sure if it will allow a non-TYO layover either.
ETA: I could have sworn there was a statement somewhere about TYO only layovers, but it does indeed allow KIX as a layover, however the onward flight appears to be limited to the international KIX-LAX nonstop and won't allow a connection through HND.
ETA: I could have sworn there was a statement somewhere about TYO only layovers, but it does indeed allow KIX as a layover, however the onward flight appears to be limited to the international KIX-LAX nonstop and won't allow a connection through HND.
Last edited by rustykettel; Mar 29, 2017 at 9:36 pm
Mar 29, 2017, 9:32 pm
#142
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Correct this would not work as a search criteria. If you look closely, you are trying to put one way criteria in as a RT search. HND-SFO cannot be the return flight on PVG-KIX-HND.
Mar 30, 2017, 10:16 pm
#143
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 211
wondering do they allow backtracking like this?
(West coast)-JFK-NRT
Basically want to maximize the time on JAL and maybe a stopover @ New York
(West coast)-JFK-NRT
Basically want to maximize the time on JAL and maybe a stopover @ New York
Mar 30, 2017, 10:23 pm
#144
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Knowing how AS handles Cathay, This is not an option on JAL either. If for some reason it does work congrats and keep it a secret.
Mar 30, 2017, 10:25 pm
#145
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,380
They do allow backtracking to some degree
(Sea-ord-nrt)
their rule is one partner+alaska. So you have to find some routing for westcoast-jfk(alaska), then jfk-nrt(JAL)
And not thru another JAL destination(Chicago, lax/sfo etc)
Mar 30, 2017, 10:32 pm
#146
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Apr 5, 2017, 12:48 pm
#147
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SNA; LAX; KUL
Posts: 434
I saw this on another day for a flight I wanted and decided to call it in. Response was (~verbatim) "I can't explain how it decides what to show for availability or why it's available on its own but not together, but what you see on the website is all we can give you".
Has *anyone* managed to book a mixed cabin F to J connection with JAL?
Has *anyone* managed to book a mixed cabin F to J connection with JAL?
Apr 5, 2017, 6:45 pm
#148
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG, DL GM
Posts: 90
YESSSSS!!!!!!! Just updated a couple reservations. Thanks for posting!
Apr 5, 2017, 7:08 pm
#149
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Perfect thanks. Just updated my reservation. I had initially put in a random date to the downline segment to secure the F seat,
Apr 9, 2017, 4:05 pm
#150
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SNA; LAX; KUL
Posts: 434
Still trying to look for availability in March of 2018. Shouldn't JL be releasing it already? So far no dates have been released for the entire month of March but Feb is wide open for J redemption.
Edit @ 930pm. BA now showing availability on their search portal, looks like it might take a while for Alaska IT backend to sync up and show it. I wonder if calling them will work?
Edit #2 @ 11am. JL awards now showing up for the month of March 2018. Was able to book the award i wanted. Thanks to all that responded.
Edit #3 : Realized my booking was being held as a reservation. Called in to Alaska to try and confirm it. Agent had to escalate to a supervisor and it seems that they're having issues communicating to the JL ticketing system. They were able to change it to be ticketed but was unsure what the JL booking reference code was. Advised me to call back 24hrs later to confirm if the ticket was actually ticketed with the JL system.
Edit #4 : Information on Alaska site now shows the JL PNR (took 24hrs). Was able to go on and select my seats.
Edit @ 930pm. BA now showing availability on their search portal, looks like it might take a while for Alaska IT backend to sync up and show it. I wonder if calling them will work?
Edit #2 @ 11am. JL awards now showing up for the month of March 2018. Was able to book the award i wanted. Thanks to all that responded.
Edit #3 : Realized my booking was being held as a reservation. Called in to Alaska to try and confirm it. Agent had to escalate to a supervisor and it seems that they're having issues communicating to the JL ticketing system. They were able to change it to be ticketed but was unsure what the JL booking reference code was. Advised me to call back 24hrs later to confirm if the ticket was actually ticketed with the JL system.
Edit #4 : Information on Alaska site now shows the JL PNR (took 24hrs). Was able to go on and select my seats.
Last edited by miuk; Apr 12, 2017 at 3:20 pm