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Old Aug 4, 2016, 7:19 pm
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What Inaugural Flight will you be on?

May 11: SEA-IND
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 2:09 pm
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Inaugurals round trip pricing (same day turn)

ICT 4/13: $662 coach / $1178 first
IND 5/11: $794 coach / $1790 first

Still lower than alternatives and nonstop.
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 2:13 pm
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Well, guess I'm not flying the IND inaugural. Oof.

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Old Aug 3, 2016, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jinglish
They had their own staff when I visited BNA earlier this year. Same in AUS right after they launched PDX, although supplemented by airport contractors for boarding.
AS is there for two weeks or so to help train after launch. I saw the same person on the inaugural of BNA and RDU
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 2:26 pm
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Major props to Alaska Airlines if they play Seven Nation Army over the loudspeakers while boarding the ICT flights.

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Old Aug 3, 2016, 4:30 pm
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LOL well played!
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 6:51 pm
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gotta say the ICT flight is a bit of a surprise. i figured the next E175 destination in the central USA would be something like OKC, DSM, LIT, or XNA. shows what i knw LOL.

nice timing on these flights to allow a good number of connections too.
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 6:54 pm
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I hope the Boeing folks are OK with an "All Boeing" airline flying an Embraer between two major Boeing locations
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 7:07 pm
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SkyWest is an all-Boeing airline?

actually Boeing shut down the Wichita facility a couple years ago
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by PV_Premier
gotta say the ICT flight is a bit of a surprise. i figured the next E175 destination in the central USA would be something like OKC, DSM, LIT, or XNA. shows what i knw LOL.

nice timing on these flights to allow a good number of connections too.
AS already flies the E175 SEA-OKC
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by PV_Premier
... next E175 destination in the central USA would be something like OKC ... shows what i knw LOL. ...
Originally Posted by AS Flyer
AS already flies the E175 SEA-OKC
ah, he's just too wrapped up in thinking about DL to AGP
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by INDEXP
Will AS have their own ground staff for this one flight or do they normally farm this out to a partner? AA/DL?
No, they will use a low-paid bottom feeder like ATS, Envoy, DGS, Prospect, etc.

DL no longer ground handles or shares facilities with AS. AA pretty much only does BTW at ORD.

Originally Posted by jinglish
They had their own staff when I visited BNA earlier this year. Same in AUS right after they launched PDX, although supplemented by airport contractors for boarding.
The staff you saw at BNA wore the same uniform as the COPS employees on the West Coast (and ORD/DCA/DEN), but they aren't AS COPS agents. They have an Alaska Air employed supervisor who oversees the operation, manages, and audits the third party employees but they do not fully staff the BNA operation, nor would it be cost competitive for them to do so.

Without going into a social/income inequality debate and labor relations debate, carriers are increasingly only staffing their primary gateways and have a number of larger line stations per their union CBAs. Even WN is outsourcing ramp service at newly opened small airport points (see MEM or LGB as examples). In the bankruptcy, legacy AA went from approximately 40 ramp stations with a minimum annual average of seven daily mainline departures to only 17 stations with a threshold of an annual average of 25 daily departures. AS, of course, no longer has a single ramp service employee in the US 48.
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 9:05 pm
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Very good news for IND!
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Old Aug 3, 2016, 11:43 pm
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Just booked AS768 for 5/11/16

Also visiting ICT later on
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by missamo80
Well, guess I'm not flying the IND inaugural. Oof.

Neil
Might have to do this flight. Never done an in augural before.
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Old Aug 4, 2016, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by PV_Premier
DSM
This.

That's the one that's been on my list from day one but it's finally a very real possibility. I'm giving it 3-5 years for that one to be announced, if not sooner. May even be an MVP again if/when that one happens! Coworkers yesterday actually told me about the new routes by saying "we're getting closer!".
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